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[lla23]

Hi Mr Ronnie,

I'm Chris from Singapore. I'm interested to do steriods, i'm not competing nor looking to get BIG within a yr but i'm curious to find out what can steroids do in the long run. I looking to gain more size and maintain certain amount of leanness, I'm more looking it as a long term commitment rather than a short term and a quick fix..... but i need some guidelines if u would be able share with me.

My questions are, what is the basic guidelines do i have to do or follow when i'm on steroids?
"How often do i hv to do a Blood work test, every 3 mths or 6 mths?"
"What do i need to look at when i have a blood work result?"
"How long should i rest for every cycle i do?"
"Do i still need to use supplements while I'm still on it"?
"What pharmaceutical company is recommended?"
"In terms of efficient, is Oral better or injection better?"

Here's wat i have been doing now.

I'm a Asian, 32 yrs old a personal trainer for 8 yrs, Ectomorph.. I started training when i was 25 yrs weighing 58Kg, Currently i'm weight 72Kg with a BF of 12%.

My meals usually i start with High Fat and Protein (RED MEAT) in e earlier part of the day and will adjust Lower Fat and Protein (WHITE MEAT) and with more Unrefined Carbs (White Rice, Sweet or Potato) towards the evening and my last meals. I do design my program and periodize them every 5 & 6 weeks and use slow or fast tempo depending on the selection of e exercises and the program.

Hope u will be able to help me with the basic guidelines or fundamentals. Thank you for your time reading this.

Regards,
Chris

[The Titan99]

So how about 5/5/5 sets of Smith machine squats, giant split squats, hack squats, then 6 sets of calve raises for a total of 21 sets? I like doing leg presses but the machine at my gym is one of those that angle up and with any kind of decent weight on it I hurt my lower back.

[Ronnie Rowland]

So how about 5/5/5 sets of Smith machine squats, giant split squats, hack squats, then 6 sets of calve raises for a total of 21 sets? I like doing leg presses but the machine at my gym is one of those that angle up and with any kind of decent weight on it I hurt my lower back. I would do 4/4/4

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[Ronnie Rowland]

hi mr ronnie,

i'm chris from singapore. I'm interested to do steriods, i'm not competing nor looking to get big within a yr but i'm curious to find out what can steroids do in the long run. I looking to gain more size and maintain certain amount of leanness, i'm more looking it as a long term commitment rather than a short term and a quick fix..... But i need some guidelines if u would be able share with me.

My questions are, what is the basic guidelines do i have to do or follow when i'm on steroids? i would use 500 mgs of test-e or test-c weekly and 50 mgs of proviron daily to control estrogen.
"how often do i hv to do a blood work test, every 3 mths or 6 mths?" 6 months is good once a baseline is established
"what do i need to look at when i have a blood work result?" 1) full liver panel -weight training primarily causes ast elevation, but also raises alt so don't panic if it comes back high. If ast is normal and alt is elevated, it can be liver cell destruction instead of muscle destruction which is reason for concern.. The key to liver health is to avoid stressing it with orals for lengthy periods of time. Test is user friendly on the liver! Take 3-5 days from training to ensure it's not from weight training before giving blood. 2) lipid levels - take fish oils, b3 and d3 to help keep lipids in check. 3) blood-hematocrit levels, etc- give blood every 3 months to lower red blood cell count and a baby aspirin can be used to thin out blood but there are risk taking aspirin such as bleeding ulcers and hem rods. 4) kidney. - cialis at 5 to 10 mgs 5) along with aspirin helps keep blood presure in check. Stay lean, reduce salt, increase fluids, keep carb intake moderate,, and watch estrogen levels.prostate-psa. 6) hormone levels -test and estrogen. Get a baseline pre-cycle to compare with post cycle. It's good practice to have blood work done while on cycle to see what's really going on. Here's a link to a website showing normal ranges on standard blood test-
http://www.bloodbook.com/ranges.html

"how long should i rest for every cycle i do?"do you want kids and do you want to go on trt the rest of your life?
"do i still need to use supplements while i'm still on it"? i would
"what pharmaceutical company is recommended?" na"in terms of efficient, is oral better or injection better?"

here's wat i have been doing now.

I'm a asian, 32 yrs old a personal trainer for 8 yrs, ectomorph.. I started training when i was 25 yrs weighing 58kg, currently i'm weight 72kg with a bf of 12%.

My meals usually i start with high fat and protein (red meat) in e earlier part of the day and will adjust lower fat and protein (white meat) and with more unrefined carbs (white rice, sweet or potato) towards the evening and my last meals. I do design my program and periodize them every 5 & 6 weeks and use slow or fast tempo depending on the selection of e exercises and the program. you should start your day with carbs and protein and end them with protein and fats. Change exercises and volume for 2 weeks (called deload) after every 8 weeks (called reload))
hope u will be able to help me with the basic guidelines or fundamentals. Thank you for your time reading this.

Regards,
chris

BLOOD TEST REFERENCE RANGE CHART
Test
Reference Range (conventional units*)

17 Hydroxyprogesterone (Men) 0.06-3.0 mg/L
17 Hydroxyprogesterone (Women) Follicular phase 0.2-1.0 mg/L
25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) 8-80 ng/mL
Acetoacetate <3 mg/dL
Acidity (pH) 7.35 - 7.45
Alcohol 0 mg/dL (more than 0.1 mg/dL normally indicates intoxication) (ethanol)
Ammonia 15 - 50 µg of nitrogen/dL
Amylase 53 - 123 units/L
Ascorbic Acid 0.4 - 1.5 mg/dL
Bicarbonate 18 - 23 mEq/L (carbon dioxide content)
Bilirubin Direct: up to 0.4 mg/dL
Total: up to 1.0 mg/dL
Blood Volume 8.5 - 9.1% of total body weight
Calcium 8.2 - 10.6 mg/dL (normally slightly higher in children)
Carbon Dioxide Pressure 35 - 45 mm Hg
Carbon Monoxide Less than 5% of total hemoglobin
CD4 Cell Count 500 - 1500 cells/µL
Ceruloplasmin 15 - 60 mg/dL
Chloride 98 - 106 mEq/L
Complete Blood Cell Count (CBC) Tests include: hemoglobin, hematocrit, mean corpuscular hemoglobin, mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration, mean corpuscular volume, platelet count, white Blood cell count
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Copper Total: 70 - 150 µg/dL
Creatine Kinase (CK or CPK) Male: 38 - 174 units/L
Female: 96 - 140 units/L
Creatine Kinase Isoenzymes 5% MB or less
Creatinine 0.6 - 1.2 mg/dL
Electrolytes Test includes: calcium, chloride, magnesium, potassium, sodium
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate (ESR or Sed-Rate) Male: 1 - 13 mm/hr
Female: 1 - 20 mm/hr
Glucose Tested after fasting: 70 - 110 mg/dL
Hematocrit Male: 45 - 62%
Female: 37 - 48%
Hemoglobin Male: 13 - 18 gm/dL
Female: 12 - 16 gm/dL
Iron 60 - 160 µg/dL (normally higher in males)
Iron-binding Capacity 250 - 460 µg/dL
Lactate (lactic acid) Venous: 4.5 - 19.8 mg/dL
Arterial: 4.5 - 14.4 mg/dL
Lactic Dehydrogenase 50 - 150 units/L
Lead 40 µg/dL or less (normally much lower in children)
Lipase 10 - 150 units/L
Zinc B-Zn 70 - 102 µmol/L
Lipids:
Cholesterol Less than 225 mg/dL (for age 40-49 yr; increases with age)
Triglycerides 10 - 29 years 53 - 104 mg/dL
30 - 39 years 55 - 115 mg/dL
40 - 49 years 66 - 139 mg/dL
50 - 59 years 75 - 163 mg/dL
60 - 69 years 78 - 158 mg/dL
> 70 years 83 - 141 mg/dL
Liver Function Tests Tests include bilirubin (total), phosphatase (alkaline), protein (total and albumin), transaminases (alanine and aspartate), prothrombin (PTT)
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Magnesium 1.9 - 2.7 mEq/L
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH) 27 - 32 pg/cell
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC) 32 - 36% hemoglobin/cell
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV) 76 - 100 cu µm
Osmolality 280 - 296 mOsm/kg water
Oxygen Pressure 83 - 100 mm Hg
Oxygen Saturation (arterial) 96 - 100%
Phosphatase, Prostatic 0 - 3 units/dL (Bodansky units) (acid)
Phosphatase 50 - 160 units/L (normally higher in infants and adolescents) (alkaline)
Phosphorus 3.0 - 4.5 mg/dL (inorganic)
Platelet Count 150,000 - 350,000/mL
Potassium 3.5 - 5.4 mEq/L
Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA) 0 - 4 ng/mL (likely higher with age)
Proteins:
Total 6.0 - 8.4 gm/dL
Albumin 3.5 - 5.0 gm/dL
Globulin 2.3 - 3.5 gm/dL

Prothrombin (PTT) 25 - 41 sec
Pyruvic Acid 0.3 - 0.9 mg/dL
Red Blood Cell Count (RBC) 4.2 - 6.9 million/µL/cu mm

Sodium 133 - 146 mEq/L
Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH) 0.5 - 6.0 µ units/mL
Transaminase:
Alanine (ALT) 1 - 21 units/L
Aspartate (AST) 7 - 27 units/L

Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 7 - 18 mg/dL
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 5 - 35
Uric Acid Male 2.1 to 8.5 mg/dL (likely higher with age)
Female 2.0 to 7.0 mg/dL (likely higher with age)
Vitamin A 30 - 65 µg/dL
WBC (leukocyte count and white Blood cell count) 4.3-10.8 × 103/mm3
White Blood Cell Count (WBC) 4,300 - 10,800 cells/µL/cu mm
*Please visit our measurement and abbreviation pages.

[lla23]

Hi Ronnie, Thanks for the Comprehensive Reply.. I appreciate it..

how many weeks do u suggest i should be on? 8 or 12 weeks? Test-E or Test-C weekly and 50 mgs of Proviron daily What supplementation do u suggest while i'm on cycle? (Digestive enzyme,Probotics, Fish Oil, Vitamin B3 & Vitamin D) ?? When on cycle, does AAS affects the "GUT HEALTH" functionality?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ronnie, Thanks for the Comprehensive Reply.. I appreciate it..

how many weeks do u suggest i should be on? 8 or 12 weeks? Test-E or Test-C weekly and 50 mgs of Proviron daily What supplementation do u suggest while i'm on cycle? (Digestive enzyme,Probotics, Fish Oil, Vitamin B3 & Vitamin D) ?? When on cycle, does AAS affects the "GUT HEALTH" functionality?

Do a 20 week cycle. 8 weeks reload/2 weeks deload. Then 8 weeks reload/ 2 weeks deload then pct. Stay on proviron for the entire 20 weeks. I would use nolvadex during pct for 4 weeks in this particular scenario.

Yes, oral steroids and tren affect gut health. I have seen tren not only cause heartburn/acid reflux like oral steroids, but geographic tounge and mouth sores.Another thing that wreaks havoc on the gut is drugs like aspirin, antibiotics,aromasin,and arimidex!

I would suggest using a powerful probiotic in addition to some L-Glutamine to aid in gut health. Zinc is another supplement that will help. Some will still have to use anti acids when using Orals or tren regardless.

[lla23]

Thanks Ronnie,

here's what i have summarize for my first cycle.

Do a Pre & Post Blood Work (Full Liver Panel, Lipids, Blood Hematocrit, Kidney, Estrogen Level, Prostate-Psa & Hormone levels - Test & Estrogen)

20 weeks Cycle

Test-E (250mg or 500mg) - Should i start at a smaller dosage first?
8 weeks reload/2 weeks deload (do u mean the cycle or training program?)
8 weeks reload/2 weeks deload then PCT (My apology, i dun under this part here on the reload & deload?)

Proviron for 20 weeks - (Would that be 50 mgs daily??)

PCT - Nolvadex for 4 weeks (How much mgs daily??)

I have the Gut Health area covered on the Zinc, Probiotics and L-Glutamine.

Did i missed out any other details??

[lla23]

Hi Ronnie, my apology, just repost again becos I think u might hv missed out..

Thanks Ronnie,

here's what i have summarize for my first cycle.

Do a Pre & Post Blood Work (Full Liver Panel, Lipids, Blood Hematocrit, Kidney, Estrogen Level, Prostate-Psa & Hormone levels - Test & Estrogen)

20 weeks Cycle

Test-E (250mg or 500mg) - Should i start at a smaller dosage first?
8 weeks reload/2 weeks deload (do u mean the cycle or training program?)
8 weeks reload/2 weeks deload then PCT (My apology, i dun under this part here on the reload & deload?)

Proviron for 20 weeks - (Would that be 50 mgs daily??)

PCT - Nolvadex for 4 weeks (How much mgs daily??)

I have the Gut Health area covered on the Zinc, Probiotics and L-Glutamine.

Did i missed out any other details??

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks Ronnie,

here's what i have summarize for my first cycle.

Do a Pre & Post Blood Work (Full Liver Panel, Lipids, Blood Hematocrit, Kidney, Estrogen Level, Prostate-Psa & Hormone levels - Test & Estrogen)

20 weeks Cycle

Test-E (250mg or 500mg) - Should i start at a smaller dosage first?
8 weeks reload/2 weeks deload (do u mean the cycle or training program?)
8 weeks reload/2 weeks deload then PCT (My apology, i dun under this part here on the reload & deload?)

Proviron for 20 weeks - (Would that be 50 mgs daily??)

PCT - Nolvadex for 4 weeks (How much mgs daily??)

I have the Gut Health area covered on the Zinc, Probiotics and L-Glutamine.

Did i missed out any other details??

500 mgs of test weekly first 8 week reload.
750 mgs of test weekly second 8 week reload.
250 mgs of test weekly for both 2 week deloads
50 mgs of proviron daily for 20 weeks.
40 mgs of nolvadex for 4 weeks pct along with 3 weeks of HMG or HCG eod

[lla23]

Thanks Ronnie, how many mgs of HMG or HCG for 3 weeks? Is PCT done daily or twice a week?

500 mgs of test weekly first 8 week reload.
750 mgs of test weekly second 8 week reload.
250 mgs of test weekly for both 2 week deloads
50 mgs of proviron daily for 20 weeks.
40 mgs of nolvadex for 4 weeks pct along with 3 weeks of HMG or HCG eod

[lla23]

Hi Ronnie, Thanks for the Comprehensive Reply.. I appreciate it..


how many weeks do u suggest i should be on? 8 or 12 weeks? Test-E or Test-C weekly and 50 mgs of Proviron daily What supplementation do u suggest while i'm on cycle? (Digestive enzyme,Probotics, Fish Oil, Vitamin B3 & Vitamin D) ?? When on cycle, does AAS affects the "GUT HEALTH" functionality?

BLOOD TEST REFERENCE RANGE CHART
Test
Reference Range (conventional units*)

17 Hydroxyprogesterone (Men) 0.06-3.0 mg/L
17 Hydroxyprogesterone (Women) Follicular phase 0.2-1.0 mg/L
25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) 8-80 ng/mL
Acetoacetate <3 mg/dL
Acidity (pH) 7.35 - 7.45
Alcohol 0 mg/dL (more than 0.1 mg/dL normally indicates intoxication) (ethanol)
Ammonia 15 - 50 µg of nitrogen/dL
Amylase 53 - 123 units/L
Ascorbic Acid 0.4 - 1.5 mg/dL
Bicarbonate 18 - 23 mEq/L (carbon dioxide content)
Bilirubin Direct: up to 0.4 mg/dL
Total: up to 1.0 mg/dL
Blood Volume 8.5 - 9.1% of total body weight
Calcium 8.2 - 10.6 mg/dL (normally slightly higher in children)
Carbon Dioxide Pressure 35 - 45 mm Hg
Carbon Monoxide Less than 5% of total hemoglobin
CD4 Cell Count 500 - 1500 cells/µL
Ceruloplasmin 15 - 60 mg/dL
Chloride 98 - 106 mEq/L
Complete Blood Cell Count (CBC) Tests include: hemoglobin, hematocrit, mean corpuscular hemoglobin, mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration, mean corpuscular volume, platelet count, white Blood cell count
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Copper Total: 70 - 150 µg/dL
Creatine Kinase (CK or CPK) Male: 38 - 174 units/L
Female: 96 - 140 units/L
Creatine Kinase Isoenzymes 5% MB or less
Creatinine 0.6 - 1.2 mg/dL
Electrolytes Test includes: calcium, chloride, magnesium, potassium, sodium
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate (ESR or Sed-Rate) Male: 1 - 13 mm/hr
Female: 1 - 20 mm/hr
Glucose Tested after fasting: 70 - 110 mg/dL
Hematocrit Male: 45 - 62%
Female: 37 - 48%
Hemoglobin Male: 13 - 18 gm/dL
Female: 12 - 16 gm/dL
Iron 60 - 160 µg/dL (normally higher in males)
Iron-binding Capacity 250 - 460 µg/dL
Lactate (lactic acid) Venous: 4.5 - 19.8 mg/dL
Arterial: 4.5 - 14.4 mg/dL
Lactic Dehydrogenase 50 - 150 units/L
Lead 40 µg/dL or less (normally much lower in children)
Lipase 10 - 150 units/L
Zinc B-Zn 70 - 102 µmol/L
Lipids:
Cholesterol Less than 225 mg/dL (for age 40-49 yr; increases with age)
Triglycerides 10 - 29 years 53 - 104 mg/dL
30 - 39 years 55 - 115 mg/dL
40 - 49 years 66 - 139 mg/dL
50 - 59 years 75 - 163 mg/dL
60 - 69 years 78 - 158 mg/dL
> 70 years 83 - 141 mg/dL
Liver Function Tests Tests include bilirubin (total), phosphatase (alkaline), protein (total and albumin), transaminases (alanine and aspartate), prothrombin (PTT)
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Magnesium 1.9 - 2.7 mEq/L
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH) 27 - 32 pg/cell
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC) 32 - 36% hemoglobin/cell
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV) 76 - 100 cu µm
Osmolality 280 - 296 mOsm/kg water
Oxygen Pressure 83 - 100 mm Hg
Oxygen Saturation (arterial) 96 - 100%
Phosphatase, Prostatic 0 - 3 units/dL (Bodansky units) (acid)
Phosphatase 50 - 160 units/L (normally higher in infants and adolescents) (alkaline)
Phosphorus 3.0 - 4.5 mg/dL (inorganic)
Platelet Count 150,000 - 350,000/mL
Potassium 3.5 - 5.4 mEq/L
Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA) 0 - 4 ng/mL (likely higher with age)
Proteins:
Total 6.0 - 8.4 gm/dL
Albumin 3.5 - 5.0 gm/dL
Globulin 2.3 - 3.5 gm/dL

Prothrombin (PTT) 25 - 41 sec
Pyruvic Acid 0.3 - 0.9 mg/dL
Red Blood Cell Count (RBC) 4.2 - 6.9 million/µL/cu mm

Sodium 133 - 146 mEq/L
Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH) 0.5 - 6.0 µ units/mL
Transaminase:
Alanine (ALT) 1 - 21 units/L
Aspartate (AST) 7 - 27 units/L

Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 7 - 18 mg/dL
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 5 - 35
Uric Acid Male 2.1 to 8.5 mg/dL (likely higher with age)
Female 2.0 to 7.0 mg/dL (likely higher with age)
Vitamin A 30 - 65 µg/dL
WBC (leukocyte count and white Blood cell count) 4.3-10.8 × 103/mm3
White Blood Cell Count (WBC) 4,300 - 10,800 cells/µL/cu mm
*Please visit our measurement and abbreviation pages.