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    Quote Originally Posted by dhickey View Post
    Some more info

    dhickey
    Baseline 243 ng/dL (Total test)
    SERM 429 ng/dL (Total test) 20mg Tamoxifen ED.
    IM 1223 ng/dL (Total test) 100mg IM x2, 250iu HCG SQ x2
    SQ 508 ng/dL (Total test) 60mg x2 SQ, 250iu HCG SQ x2
    SQ 745 ng/dL (Total test) 80mg x2 SQ, 250iu HCG SQ x2

    I believe these were all between my x2 injections, so not a trough.

    Because of my low SHBG and fast metabolism of T, I'm currently trying 30mg EOD, 125IU HCG EOD. Hopefully this also allows me to to use less adex while keeping E2 in check. I'll probably test again in a week.
    SQ 469 ng/dl (Total test) 30mg EOD SQ, 125iu HCG EOD

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    Great thread. Not sure if the same members are here but here is what I have:

    100mg 1x per week, test done 1 week after last injection:
    Testosterone, Total: 587 (250-1100 ng/dL)
    Testosterone, Free: 153.8 (35-155 pg/mL)
    Estradiol: 29 (< 39 pg/mL)


    125mg 1x per week, test done the day after last injection:
    Estradiol: 48 (< 39 pg/mL)
    Testosterone, Total: 1486 (250-1100 ng/dL)
    Testosterone, Free: 491.9 (35-155 pg/mL)
    DHT: 79 (16-79 ng/dL)


    125mg split into 40-42mg 3x/week, SUBQ, test done after last injection (all in glutes)
    Estradiol: 51 (< 39 pg/mL)
    Testosterone, Total: 1022 (250-1100 ng/dL)
    Testosterone, Free: 260.6 (35-155 pg/mL)
    DHT: 72 (16-79 ng/dL)

    So my concern is not getting my test levels high enough, SubQ seemed to work just fine for that. My issue is my estradiol. I switched from 1x/week injections to 3x/week injections (which everyone says should lower estrogen) and I switched from IM to SQ (which Dr. Crisler says should lower estrogen) and yet my E2 actually went up just slightly

    Based on this thread I am now going back to IM, but keeping it 3x per week AND doing it exclusively in my quads. I do wonder if estrogen conversion would be still go down just doing thigh injectons but still subQ. I don't think my doctor wants to keep writing all of these scripts so it's hard for me to get tested very often. I really want to avoid taking an AI but my E2 is well above the range now. I would like to see how 3x/week thigh injections work after about 6 weeks and then at that point if E2 isn't lower I think I'll have to go back down to 100mg per week total.

    I am still using insulin syringes to get more accurate dosing, and they are only 1/2" long so while I am doing IM right now they are a fairly shallow IM.
    Last edited by Pumped340; 09-19-2015 at 01:45 PM.

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