$hit Genes - How To Fix This??? Quit???

[dinogoesrawr]

Ok – I did reply to a lot of the above before but I’ll try it another way this time.

These are the only roids I have taken.

Cycle 1 (5 weeks):

Avanar 50mg (pro chem brand). 1 per day.
Tamoxifen 20mg 1 per day.
Testcynate 200ml 2mls a week and bold 2mls a week. 5 week cycle.
Weight went from 75kg to 80kg (steady).
HCG 5000ui – 2 x 50ml per week (Monday, Thursday).

New cycle (5 weeks): (3 injections of roids per week not including HCG)

Avanar 50mg (pro chem brand). 1 per day.
Tamoxifen 20mg 1 per day.
Testcynate 200mg 2mls a week
Propionate 100mg 2 mls a week
Equibol 300mg 2mls a week
Parabolin 75mg 2ml a week
Mixed and taken on Monday, Thursday and Saturday.
HCG 5000ui – 2 x 50ml per week (Monday, Thursday).
Weight went from 80kg to 85kg (steady).

My PT recommended (before I left him) that I don’t to the 4 roid mix and just take tren 200mg or 300mg for 5 weeks.
I am currently following BIB’s diet/exercise programme (its been 1 week) as I am NOT with my PT anymore.

I had blood tests before/after each cycle with my doctor and was told my doctor my test levels ‘are fine’.

I posted this thread up to figure out what was wrong. If not genetics then perhaps something else is wrong. I want to fix it and get results.

Again – if you want pics – I can send you before/after but ONLY VIA PM. Please PM me if you want the pics. Perhaps ‘not changing is in my head’ sure…. But I have shown a couple of people and they agree I don’t look much different (at least not 2 cycles and 6 months of training’s worth).

Crazymike – I’m sorry if I offended you/you felt like I walked out on you but this was not my intention. I didn’t realise you wanted continuous dialog – I will be more careful when posting next time.

[pitchindude]

My PT recommended (before I left him) that I don't to the 4 roid mix and just take tren 200mg or 300mg for 5 weeks.
I am currently following BIB's diet/exercise programme (its been 1 week) as I am NOT with my PT anymore.
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Good call on not doing mix of 4.

Horrible advice on tren only. Test base always. And I think I'm correct that you've done one short cycle previously? If so, you don't need to be anywhere near tren.

Good call ditching the PT.

[crazy mike]

Hey Dino, If you post your pic you will get many posts with advice. It's always good to get the majority's help. Also listen when I started in 1981 I was 30 yrs. old and weighed 135 lbs. Just skinny as a rail. The best bodybuilders and the knowlegable will never make fun, never laugh. We ALL started some where and some of us made stupid mistakes.
Please PM me the photo's. …crazy mike
“Oldest Juicer on the Forum”

[dinogoesrawr]

Hey Dino, If you post your pic you will get many posts with advice. It's always good to get the majority's help. Also listen when I started in 1981 I was 30 yrs. old and weighed 135 lbs. Just skinny as a rail. The best bodybuilders and the knowlegable will never make fun, never laugh. We ALL started some where and some of us made stupid mistakes.
Please PM me the photo's. …crazy mike
“Oldest Juicer on the Forum”

I know no one will make fun - I just don't feel comfortable putting up pics just yet. When my body is nicer I will put before/after. But atm I don't want to ... :S
PM'd the pics.

[dinogoesrawr]

Please PM me the photo's. …crazy mike
“Oldest Juicer on the Forum”

Do I look THAT bad? lol

[Flagg]

Ok – I did reply to a lot of the above before but I’ll try it another way this time.

These are the only roids I have taken.

Cycle 1 (5 weeks):

Avanar 50mg (pro chem brand). 1 per day.
Tamoxifen 20mg 1 per day.
Testcynate 200ml 2mls a week and bold 2mls a week. 5 week cycle.
Weight went from 75kg to 80kg (steady).
HCG 5000ui – 2 x 50ml per week (Monday, Thursday).

New cycle (5 weeks): (3 injections of roids per week not including HCG)

Avanar 50mg (pro chem brand). 1 per day.
Tamoxifen 20mg 1 per day.
Testcynate 200mg 2mls a week
Propionate 100mg 2 mls a week
Equibol 300mg 2mls a week
Parabolin 75mg 2ml a week
Mixed and taken on Monday, Thursday and Saturday.
HCG 5000ui – 2 x 50ml per week (Monday, Thursday).
Weight went from 80kg to 85kg (steady).

My PT recommended (before I left him) that I don’t to the 4 roid mix and just take tren 200mg or 300mg for 5 weeks.
I am currently following BIB’s diet/exercise programme (its been 1 week) as I am NOT with my PT anymore.

I had blood tests before/after each cycle with my doctor and was told my doctor my test levels ‘are fine’.

I posted this thread up to figure out what was wrong. If not genetics then perhaps something else is wrong. I want to fix it and get results.

Again – if you want pics – I can send you before/after but ONLY VIA PM. Please PM me if you want the pics. Perhaps ‘not changing is in my head’ sure…. But I have shown a couple of people and they agree I don’t look much different (at least not 2 cycles and 6 months of training’s worth).

Crazymike – I’m sorry if I offended you/you felt like I walked out on you but this was not my intention. I didn’t realise you wanted continuous dialog – I will be more careful when posting next time.

Fair enough but if you have gained 10 kilos, it's got to have gone somewhere right? Try not to take offence but do you think you've gotten fatter or do you feel/look lean(ish)?

[dinogoesrawr]

Fair enough but if you have gained 10 kilos, it's got to have gone somewhere right? Try not to take offence but do you think you've gotten fatter or do you feel/look lean(ish)?

Yup not offended - thanks for the question. I agree - must have gone somewhere. I feel fatter not more lean. I want comment on how I look as its probably 'in my eyes' (but I feel I look fatter esp around the stomach).