No, I'm going to throw my story here. I did some oral cycles back in my mid 20's. but never had no problems. Fast forward to jan 2012, to make long story short I did 6 week cycle of var, never had issues back in the day and did not have no problem after this one. Fast forward to June , I found this site so learned I shouldn't do oral only cycle. Mt test was in the 600-700 range before my next cycle which I started in June. 500 mg test cyp ew, 100 mg var Ed liquid stane 12.5 mg Ed. No Hcg. 12 week cycle went very well. Finished, Pct in oct, I just chose novldex. I did not come back right. Started losing energy, added bodyfat, and no ejaculation. I'm 46 now and into my 6 th week of trt for the rest of my life. Like my dr, who is o e of the top guys in trt said, some guys can do gear all their life and they will be fine and others like me messed myself up for 15 lbs Lbm. Was it worth it, HELL NO. I could have added that 15 lbs naturally, but I decided to take a shortcut just like 75% of users. It's not worth it. Stay natural unless you plan on being a pro bodybuilder.Originally Posted by Sathane