When is it time to juice?

[sawyer86]

I know what your saying but your threads always get so argumentative.

Some of what your saying makes sense but surely everyones natural limit is totally diffrent. One persons frame will hold a totally diffrent amount of lbm to another person depending on body type and genes.

[calstate23]

I know what your saying but your threads always get so argumentative.

Some of what your saying makes sense but surely everyones natural limit is totally diffrent. One persons frame will hold a totally diffrent amount of lbm to another person depending on body type and genes.

Yes, I do agree with that...

But it's not going to be night and day...For instance, no one (Or at least anyone that I have ever seen in my life) has been 5'9" 200 lbs at 5% as a natural...In fact, I don't even think I've seen 5'9" at 6% 190 as a natural...