Planning next cycle... first time deca/test

[Zero Mango]

Looking for some ppl with experience and knowledge with deca/test cycle. Just in the research phase right now, looking to bulk. Here's what I am considering. Assuming diet and base is ideal for 200lbs male.

-Test 400mg/w (c or e) 12 weeks & Deca ( nandrolone decanoate ) 250mg/w 10 weeks
Both split twice a week.

-HCG is probably nessecary for this due to highly suppressive nature of deca, correct? run it from week 2 until end of PCT? 400 or 500iu/w?

-Will arimidex be nessecary during cycle?

PCT Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20 (1 extra week)

I'm sure I messed something up here as I am trying to take the best infromation I can from dozens of threads...

[austinite]

Are you going to tell people who disagree with you they're going to die at age 45, like to did with me?

Troll elsewhere until you get some manners.

[Zero Mango]

Are you going to tell people who disagree with you they're going to die at age 45, like to did with me?

Troll elsewhere until you get some manners.

Feelings still hurt because a newb disagreed with you? Lol. Are you wheelchair ridden or something? You posted in 2 mins! Your finger must be sore from hitting the refresh button all day long and changing your profile photo several times a day. You want to hijack my thread and attack me (a second time) because you took personal offense with me disagreeing with you? Ok, since you seem to love arguing so much I will indulge you. I challenge you to produce a clinical trial in humans that directly shows how clomid and nolva work together as you put it "synergisticly" in aiding PCT recovery BETTER than nolva alone. No hypothesis, give me proof. If you don't have it then you have to conceit to the fact that you are expressing an OPINION similarly to any other person here. Furthermore, I find your articles lacking any references. Which begs the question, why?

PS Before that vein explodes in your forehead, riddle me this... Why does that guy's pic you use for your avatar look a lot like the guy in my avatar pic.

[bdos]

austin has a guy in his avatar? whats going on i cant see it...or mine..stupid phone

[teezer33]

o boy

[Capebuffalo]

About Zero Mango
Biography:
Just wanna get a bit stronger. Without ****ing up my body.


Quit making excuses and train harder.

[teezer33]

Are you going to tell people who disagree with you they're going to die at age 45, like to did with me?

Troll elsewhere until you get some manners.

I don't think Mango knows there is an App for this forum

[bass]

Feelings still hurt because a newb disagreed with you? Lol. Are you wheelchair ridden or something? You posted in 2 mins! Your finger must be sore from hitting the refresh button all day long and changing your profile photo several times a day. You want to hijack my thread and attack me (a second time) because you took personal offense with me disagreeing with you? Ok, since you seem to love arguing so much I will indulge you. I challenge you to produce a clinical trial in humans that directly shows how clomid and nolva work together as you put it "synergisticly" in aiding PCT recovery BETTER than nolva alone. No hypothesis, give me proof. If you don't have it then you have to conceit to the fact that you are expressing an OPINION similarly to any other person here. Furthermore, I find your articles lacking any references. Which begs the question, why?

PS Before that vein explodes in your forehead, riddle me this... Why does that guy's pic you use for your avatar look a lot like the guy in my avatar pic.

dude you're here for a reason, I am hoping its for learning and asking for advice, messing with the staff it ain't smart.

[Zero Mango]

dude you're here for a reason, I am hoping its for learning and asking for advice, messing with the staff it ain't smart.

Austindike was hostile towards me for suggesting to another member may not need hcg, clomid, and nolva all together for PCT for a test ONLY 12 week cycle. Austin then brought up in a separate thread that I shouldn't be asking such elementary questions about clen when I was seeking clearly seeking OPINIONS on when to take clen. Not pharmaceutical information. Austin may know what hes talking about and might be correct very often. However, he has no references to back up anything of his I have read and he does draw his own conclusions OR report the hypothetical conclusions of others as fact. HYPOTHESIS IS NOT FACT. If your going to invest the time like he has to write articles you should be backing it up, any college student knows that. If you going to blast somebody for not backing up their OPINION like was my case then your a hypocrite if you don't do the same. Austin, the gauntlet is down but where are you? You responded last time in 2 mins....

[Zero Mango]

About Zero Mango
Biography:
Just wanna get a bit stronger. Without ****ing up my body.


Quit making excuses and train harder.

About Zero Mango
Biography:
Just wanna get a bit stronger. Without ****ing up my body.


Quit making excuses and train harder.

I need to train harder because I don't want to destroy my body with a toxic cocktail or blackmarket subs? I waited 32 years until I was at my plateau. All natty. I have no permanent injuries because I learned how to lift safely. How about you?

[carbo]

I'd recommend -

HCG wise - Yes; oh dear, the dreaded question when to start - usually when the boys down there start to shrink a tiny bit...around week 3...that's when you know your natural FSH and LH are almost non-existent. Stop HCG a week before going into PCT. 2x250iu / Week

Adex wise - Yes; 0.25mg-0.5mg EOD would be beneficial, all the way til PCT

[austinite]

Austindike was hostile towards me for suggesting to another member may not need hcg, clomid, and nolva all together for PCT for a test ONLY 12 week cycle. Austin then brought up in a separate thread that I shouldn't be asking such elementary questions about clen when I was seeking clearly seeking OPINIONS on when to take clen. Not pharmaceutical information. Austin may know what hes talking about and might be correct very often. However, he has no references to back up anything of his I have read and he does draw his own conclusions OR report the hypothetical conclusions of others as fact. HYPOTHESIS IS NOT FACT. If your going to invest the time like he has to write articles you should be backing it up, any college student knows that. If you going to blast somebody for not backing up their OPINION like was my case then your a hypocrite if you don't do the same. Austin, the gauntlet is down but where are you? You responded last time in 2 mins....

No references? I gave you science. You're too weak to challenge what I said. Your only backing is saying that Clomid and Nolva will kill you.

You are a troll, will always be a troll. Worthless member and you won't last long.

Go away, troll.

[Capebuffalo]

Looking for some ppl with experience and knowledge with deca/test cycle. Just in the research phase right now, looking to bulk. Here's what I am considering. Assuming diet and base is ideal for 200lbs male.

-Test 400mg/w (c or e) 12 weeks & Deca ( nandrolone decanoate ) 250mg/w 10 weeks
Both split twice a week.

-HCG is probably nessecary for this due to highly suppressive nature of deca, correct? run it from week 2 until end of PCT? 400 or 500iu/w?

-Will arimidex be nessecary during cycle?

PCT Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20 (1 extra week)

I'm sure I messed something up here as I am trying to take the best infromation I can from dozens of threads...

My point is that if your goal is to be a little bit stronger why use steroids.
At 30 plus your gains aren't fast enough? You can't push yourself a little harder? Eat a little more? Rest a bit longer?

How about me? What would you like to know?
First time I did steroids? Uh 37. Next question please.

You think you would have learned respect for others by now.

[wmaousley]

I need to train harder because I don't want to destroy my body with a toxic cocktail or blackmarket subs? I waited 32 years until I was at my plateau. All natty. I have no permanent injuries because I learned how to lift safely.

Thats the smartest thing you have poted, and I couldnt agree more