Torn between Letro, Arom and Adex

[Gwill]

Hi Lads,

Im about to start a new cycle. Just need to get some advice on cycle support.

Ive been using gear for about 15 years with Tren A/E Test E/C/P and Deca at different stages over the years. I havent done many orals other than the usual Dbol.

My issue is ever since the early days AIs and SERMs werent all that talked about and ive suffered with Puffy nips for at least the last 10 years (Prob because i started gear way to early). This time however im going to do things right.... ive never really cared before if im honest.

12 week cycle

Test E 500 weekly
Tren E 300 weekly
Mast E 400 weekly

*Anavar 80mcg
*Winstrol 50mcg

* havent decided on the oral to use yet but it will be the final 6 weeks winstrol 8 weeks for Var.

Cycle support This is where i need your help

Letro .25 EOD
Adex .5 ED
Arom 25mg ED

(Ive had enough experience over the years with Tren, i dont suffer prolactin).

PCT (4 weeks) 2 weeks after last injection

Clomid 100 ED (1-2)
Clomid 50 ED (2-4)
Adex 1 ED (1-4)


So as mentioned above i need your help with the cycle support. My mates always tell me to just use Adex at .5 ED and leave it at that.

What do you lads think?

Cheers
GW

[Lunk1]

I prefer Aromasin but Adex is a good choice as well. Drop the adex from your PCT and include Nolva

[Gwill]

I prefer Aromasin but Adex is a good choice as well. Drop the adex from your PCT and include Nolva

Thanks for the response lunk1. Is nova ok in PCT if I'm using tren buddy?

[Muscleduke]

Thanks for the response lunk1. Is nova ok in PCT if I'm using tren buddy?

Nolvadex is g2g with tren

[Gwill]

Nolvadex is g2g with tren

Ok thanks. Done

[dogfight]

aromasin all the way it helps boost igf-1 the others don't.

[Sfla80]

Hi Lads,

Im about to start a new cycle. Just need to get some advice on cycle support.

Ive been using gear for about 15 years with Tren A/E Test E/C/P and Deca at different stages over the years. I havent done many orals other than the usual Dbol.

My issue is ever since the early days AIs and SERMs werent all that talked about and ive suffered with Puffy nips for at least the last 10 years (Prob because i started gear way to early). This time however im going to do things right.... ive never really cared before if im honest.

12 week cycle

Test E 500 weekly
Tren E 300 weekly
Mast E 400 weekly

*Anavar 80mcg
*Winstrol 50mcg

* havent decided on the oral to use yet but it will be the final 6 weeks winstrol 8 weeks for Var.

Cycle support This is where i need your help

Letro .25 EOD
Adex .5 ED
Arom 25mg ED

(Ive had enough experience over the years with Tren, i dont suffer prolactin).

PCT (4 weeks) 2 weeks after last injection

Clomid 100 ED (1-2)
Clomid 50 ED (2-4)
Adex 1 ED (1-4)

So as mentioned above i need your help with the cycle support. My mates always tell me to just use Adex at .5 ED and leave it at that.

What do you lads think?

Cheers
GW

Personal preference on adex and arom....but from what I see ur dosing is definitely on the high side for both either way.

[Gwill]

aromasin all the way it helps boost igf-1 the others don't.

Thanks. Is my dose and Schedule if using arom ok for cycle support?

Cheers
Gw

[Gwill]

Personal preference on adex and arom....but from what I see ur dosing is definitely on the high side for both either way.

Ok, thanks.

[Sfla80]

Ok, thanks.

Im a adex person....but I believe arom is 12.5 ed....if im wrong im sure someone will chime in

[Gwill]

Im a adex person....but I believe arom is 12.5 ed....if im wrong im sure someone will chime in

Oh really? Ok I'll look into that. If u don't mind me asking why do you lean towards adex?

[Sfla80]

Oh really? Ok I'll look into that. If u don't mind me asking why do you lean towards adex?

Honestly never tried arom....and my understanding adex is faster acting. So if any issues arise and needed to up to dose, your reaction time is better with adex. But I believe the majority here use arom.

[Ashop]

I like all the AI'S. On real strong cycles I like LETRO best.

[dogfight]

Thanks. Is my dose and Schedule if using arom ok for cycle support?
Cheers
Gw

25 mgs Is the standard does you will find in most literature however you only have one compound that will aromatize so I would half that dose or even cut it to 1/4 of that or as close as you can as estrogen is vital to growth and will prevent the androgen lethargy. pay close attention to your prostate as well that is a very androgen heavy cycle. If you notice a little bloat more than you are comfortable with than up it to half and so on. Asin is not cheap and estrogen is important just at the right ratio and since you have so many androgens a little more will help you. its all personal tolerance and preference. if you are more sensitive to estrogen 25mgs will do fine. Hope this helps.

[jimmyinkedup]

I think your aromasin dosage is fine. People base heir data on its effectiveness on studies in women..which is a huge mistake. If you look at the only study done on males it was administered at 25 and 50mg/day to 2 diff groups. While it substantially lowered estrogen both groups estrogen levels were still withing the ref range for e2 when they did bloodwork. My point? It is very difficult to crush estrogen levels when taking aromasin and people underdose it most of the time. If they did proper bloodwork on cycle they would see this.

[Gwill]

25 mgs Is the standard does you will find in most literature however you only have one compound that will aromatize so I would half that dose or even cut it to 1/4 of that or as close as you can as estrogen is vital to growth and will prevent the androgen lethargy. pay close attention to your prostate as well that is a very androgen heavy cycle. If you notice a little bloat more than you are comfortable with than up it to half and so on. Asin is not cheap and estrogen is important just at the right ratio and since you have so many androgens a little more will help you. its all personal tolerance and preference. if you are more sensitive to estrogen 25mgs will do fine. Hope this helps.

Spot on dogfight!!

Thanks.

[Gwill]

I think your aromasin dosage is fine. People base heir data on its effectiveness on studies in women..which is a huge mistake. If you look at the only study done on males it was administered at 25 and 50mg/day to 2 diff groups. While it substantially lowered estrogen both groups estrogen levels were still withing the ref range for e2 when they did bloodwork. My point? It is very difficult to crush estrogen levels when taking aromasin and people underdose it most of the time. If they did proper bloodwork on cycle they would see this.

Thank you buddy.