as you may know i was considering a test/tren cycle, my question is, do either of the compounds cause erectile dysfunction or lower sex drive (libido)??? Don't wanna take anything if they do
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as you may know i was considering a test/tren cycle, my question is, do either of the compounds cause erectile dysfunction or lower sex drive (libido)??? Don't wanna take anything if they do
Senior Member
Tren is very androgenic, made me horny as hell.
New Member
test dose increase it ye brah
Last edited by ken9; 01-30-2014 at 03:18 PM.
Junior Member
what doses are you guys using that have increased sex drive? Also taking anything with it, such as caber, AI, anything?
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Marky i dunno why you asking such qus about sex drive if ur young you should not have an problem and yes AI is a must ready sticky beginners and steroids read it very carefully
Junior Member
on tren is caber a must need? haha ken i appreciate all the information as i said the other day in my last questionnaire, i like to gain as much info as i possibly can on a subject before i ever think of trying something, i like to know pros/cons, everything, better to do that then just jump on something and not know what can happen, and also i have had a lower sex drive since i was in high school
VET
Test can increase your estrogen due to aromitise of free Test. Too much E2 can cause lower libido. You can keep E2 under control with AI like adex. Tren can cause over production of Prolactin. The same stuff that's secreted after ejaculation that kills your erection. You can control the Prolactin by controlling your E2 as well as taking Prami or Caber. Steroids in general can mess with your libido either up or down. You're playing with your hormones and there always a chance it can affect your libido. You can mitigate a lot of the sides by being smart about what you take but there's always a chance you might get negative effects. That's one of the potential downsides of taking steroids. If you know this going in you won't panic when it happens.
Senior Member
I think this is the third thread you have created about running tren. You were advised before that at age 21 you are too young to run AAS. However, if you are determined not to listen to the advice that was given to you then do your self a favor and leave the tren out for now. Tren is a very advanced compound with harsh sides. A test only cycle should be utilized to see how your body reacts to AAS. I have run test, and I have run test and tren. Even though the gains from tren were great, the gains from test alone were very good. I also had less sides with test. I will continue to advocate waiting a few years to allow your body time to finish developing.
Junior Member
Originally Posted by king6 II
Yes i know over and over again I've been advised, I'm not using, I'm asking questions because if i decided to use, thats what id use
VET
Oh, you're under 21? You should do all of us a favor. Run Test Prop 150mg/EOD + Tren A 200mg/EOD for 8 weeks. Then see how long it takes to get your erection back. 1 year 2 years? LOL, just kidding bro. Listen to king6 II, be safe and stay away from this stuff. It's too tempting but it can hurt you. It's like Ulysses sailing past the Sirens, so beautiful yet dangerous.
Junior Member
im not under 21, i am 21 for the record lol and I'm just gathering information, never said i was gonna try any of this, just said if i was going to thats what id do, but for now just gathering information
Knowledgeable Member
Glad you said it. Same answers to the same tired questions he's asked and if he was doing his research, he could have already answered his question about ED and low libido.
Managing estrogen (and prolactin to some degree) will play a bigger role in avoiding sexual dysfunction syndromes. It's basic endocrinology. Your hormones play MANY roles in your body (growth, appetite, digestion, cognition, immune system, lipid metabolism, mood, and much much more). Any time hormones fall outside normal ranges there is always a risk that adverse events can arise. If you are going to play with your endocrine system, you must appreciate this and be willing to accept any problems you cause by shutting down our HTPA and changing the delicate balance of hormones.
One thing many people experience with tren isn't a loss of libido or erectile strength, rather anorgasmia (the inability to achieve orgasm). So, you may find you're ready and willing to "perform" but your "soldiers" may not march the way they normally due under conditions of stimulation.
Just bare that in mind.
Junior Member
Would test e alone, without TREN, raise sex drive?
Knowledgeable Member
Don't take this the wrong way, but you wouldn't be the first guy to say, "I'm not taking them for a while, I'm just doing research", and then be taking them in the next 30 days. I've dwelt with many young guys that assured me they were not going to take them and then 10 days later I find out they lied and they try to sell me the excuse, "oh well things changed". Lol, ya OK.
Knowledgeable Member
Again, the answer isn't yes or no. It's dependent on running a COMPLETE and PROPER cycle. It would likely increase your sex drive but if your estrogen was outside of normal ranges you WILL encounter sexual dysfunction problems.
Junior Member
I understand that, would Test used by itself raise libido?
Knowledgeable Member
ScotchGuard and I have already answered this for you.
It's a zero sum outcome. The right balance of estrogen AND testosterone (and other hormones) contribute to sexual function.
YES testosterone will enhance libido BUT (and you NEED TO HEAR THIS CLEARLY) you can just as easily DESTROY your libido if your testosterone is high and your estrogen is too high OR too low. You're obsessing on one hormone. Testosterone AND estrogen need to be in proper alignment for sexual function.
Junior Member
ok thanks for the info, so if you keep your estro in check as far as it not rising to high or getting too low, use hcg, and use an AI, it should be good as far as test e and a rise in libido?
Knowledgeable Member
Generally speaking, yes. The flip side is recovery. Many young guys have run proper cycles yet after their PCT their HTPA wasn't functioning normally and they weren't producing enough testosterone. Subsequently they suffered from erectile dysfunction, low libido, and depression.
It's an ever present risk.
Junior Member
ok, as far as tren goes, is there a difference in side effects of tren a and tren e?
Anabolic Member
I do not agree that ED is caused by looking at porn. That can be one reason, but there are many other reasons as well that are far more complex than that simple explanation.
Senior Member
Lol, yeah I kind of just bypassed that post, but is still made me scratch my head. If watching porn and punching the clown causes ED theoretically my dick should have stopped working years ago.
Productive Member
The guy that wrote that sounded a bit loopy to say the least
OP If you're trying to learn everything there is to know about tren you might be better off using the search feature on this site. That being said, I personally did not notice a difference between tren ace and tren e, apart from the ester lengths
New Member
I dont got it u wanna use gear for sex? seriously what's wrong with you ur 21 you should bang chicks no problem
check ur diet post it up are you eating enough healthy fats?
how about cardio it also helps alot
at 21 you should master when it come to sex keep in mind durn pct ur will **** up ur sex
i guess ur girl likes sex alot LOL reminds me of my old ex why dont u take honygoat ??? dont take this stuff only for sex also 21 is damn young ur at ur max test lvls now just so u know and idunno how u wannna go as first cycle with tren well good luck man but i will wait ur next topic when u finish ur pct about bragging about bad effects i hope not i hope u will do just fine but there is facts 1 of them ur age
trust me when i say bad diet kills libido when ur in perfect diet getting ur macros there is no way in hell u be low sex drive at 21 unless u have LOW TEST then i suggest do blood test and post the results
good luck op search alot before u do anything u might regret it later in life
Productive Member
Can you run that through spell check next time and then reflect for 10 seconds on whether or not its relevant?
I think OP gets the point.
New Member
Yeah right just so u know they did a test feo month ago saw it on news about young ppl jaking off at porn 5-6 times a day for years they cant get hard when it comes to real thing
do ur research u might see the video its over 3mil view on youtube try this yourbrainonporn.com/erectile-dysfunction-question and
START HERE: Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunction | Your Brain On Porn millions of ppl reported it after they made that website video and must ppl who had it guess what age thats right 20's due to abusing masturbating and porn watching for years but anyway u do whatever u want am not going to argue anything here u do what u see right u can watch all day long i just wanted to point it out
Junior Member
All i was asking earlier was does tren and/or test increase sex drive, because i have heard some tales of yes increased sex drive like crazy and then I've read of tren dick, and no erections...so i was seeing your opinions since you guys have used some sort of gear before, as i haven't i figured it'd be best to as ask around......last question, if you start using and you don't like it, can you stop using cold turkey or do you have to go through a procedure? Only asking up front because if i do a test only cycle and decide a few weeks in or a few days in that i don't wanna do it anymore, i wanna know how to go about stopping
Anabolic Member
It absolutely does not matter if they did a study or not. All that proves is one freaking cause of ED for some people. Getting shot in the face with a shotgun probably causes death, but that doesnt mean it is the only thing that causes death. Ugh. Also, tren makes it hard for me to cum. So if you are a minute man, it willprobably help. But it will also most likely make you such an ass that no woman will want to sleep with you to begin with.
Senior Member
It kind of depends on how far along you are. If you run test e for 3 weeks, you most likely would have to initiate some type of pct protocol once you have stopped. For most people if they don't like what they are running due to side effects, a common method is to scale back the dosage. A lot of times that helps to eliminate unwanted side effects.
Anabolic Member
Furthermore, if an averae joe with low self asteem is jacking to 10's on the internet, then they probably wont get aroused when hopping into bed with someone that looks like them; with a wig on. Ha ha. But if you have confidence and can pick up 10's then you probably wont have as many problems. Or at least the study is not the cause or reason behind their problem.
Junior Member
Ok, only reason i was asking is I've seen where someone took 2 (1ml) shots of 300mg/ml test e, which totaled 600mg and quit because they didn't like it, and were fine, and then i seen where someone was doing 500mg of test e for 4 weeks, something came up with supplier, couldn't get anymore, so had to use his pct to come off instead of just going on about his life, i know it depends on how much and the person, but just a interested question that popped into my head so i figured id ask
Knowledgeable Member
Generally speaking, a few shots will start to suppress your natural production but recovery should be fine if its only a few shots. The longer you stay on a cycle, the more permanent the shut down and the necessity for a proper recovery plan (HCG and PCT).
The thing to remember is that these are guidelines only. Everyone is different, everyone's body responds differently. What works or happens to one guy isn't a guarantee of anything for the next guy.
Junior Member
If you were to take tren and test, how much caber/prami and arimidex would you need? I would've said letro for AI but I've heard mixed reviews about it most ppl seem to like Arimidex, again this is all just for knowledge purposes i like to know everything up front about things like this, before i ever take anything, but i do believe if i start using gear it will be the exact FIRST CYCLE STICKY
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