Thanks, I guess when it comes to diet I have never been disciplined enough to pick a plan and stay on it. When I lower carbs my strength takes a hit...which means my ego takes a hit and I start second guessing if I'm feeding the muscle enough to not lose any. 25 years ago I entered a contest in Utah and started a precontest diet at 223...I had 8 weeks and by contest day still had some fat around my stomach. The night before I weighed in at 191...8 lbs less than I wanted...after the main show contest night... I weighed myself and I came in at 181...(on a different scale)...but I had dropped significant weight that night and next day...I was flat and barely looked like a bodybuilder. Within 4 days I was back into the mid 190's. Whatever state I put my body in the last couple of days...it really reacted in a negative way. I'll work on the diet data.