Yea really not my question fellas. I know I can do that. I'm just not into goin behind the girls back. Told er I wouldn't do it n I'm stickin to it for now. I'll do it when I'm ready n I know she eased up. She's know I cycle. I use to take pins in front of her. My question is how suppressive is s-drol in 30 days. Is exogenous ( outside source) of test required? For instance I wouldn't run nandrolone without test. Looking for answers to that and mg dosage for s-drol per day or if I were to run h-drol what my is worth it per day. I was understanding s-drol 20mg ED for 4 weeks or h-drol for 5 weeks at 75-150 not sure on it. Remember I've got over 10 cycles under my belt and pct. last labs I ran my test was 829 and free test was 15.9 but my e2 was kinda high. Plenty of pct left over. No hcg to kick start the ol leydig into production but clomid. Some nolva. I'm just looking for dosage and durations some guys have ran on these and on these BY THEMSELVES.