Successful Competing

[Metalject]

Thank you for your advice, I think I may follow last years plan when I started dieting and compound choices at week 16, then really tighten things up from week 12 onwards. If you think the extra bulking time is negligible then this would seem the best approach.

What would be your thoughts on running the primo at say 1000mg all the way through to the show, I have read the longer you can run it the better.

I don't have any problems with Primo itself other than it's probably the most commonly counterfeited steroid out there. Anavar would be the second most common but I truly believe Primo is the most common. Most Primo is either low dose test or nandrolone or a mix of both. One way to know if the particular batch is real is if you know of a girl using it. If she starts showing signs of lactating, which I've seen happen numerous times, that's not Primo. If she starts showing signs of virilization quickly but has prior AAS use without such signs and is using normal low female doses, it's probably not Primo. If you're buying it for dirt cheap prices, it's not Primo with maybe one or two exceptions. There are sources out there that are more direct than most but they're few and far between.

Personally, I prefer to use more of other things, more Tren and Masteron, but I do know some guys who do like it precontest. One of those things that you'll just have to try to see if it's something that works well for you. I know that's kind of a weak answer but it's the best answer I have.

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I don't have any problems with Primo itself other than it's probably the most commonly counterfeited steroid out there. Anavar would be the second most common but I truly believe Primo is the most common. Most Primo is either low dose test or nandrolone or a mix of both. One way to know if the particular batch is real is if you know of a girl using it. If she starts showing signs of lactating, which I've seen happen numerous times, that's not Primo. If she starts showing signs of virilization quickly but has prior AAS use without such signs and is using normal low female doses, it's probably not Primo. If you're buying it for dirt cheap prices, it's not Primo with maybe one or two exceptions. There are sources out there that are more direct than most but they're few and far between.

Personally, I prefer to use more of other things, more Tren and Masteron, but I do know some guys who do like it precontest. One of those things that you'll just have to try to see if it's something that works well for you. I know that's kind of a weak answer but it's the best answer I have.

Thanks metal and that's not a weak answer at all just honest, im reasonably sure what I have is primo for the following reasons, this source has been 100% reliable so far, I have done a melting point test on the raw and came back within range, also I have access to a accredited lab as its what I do for work and got a molecular weight done on it and it came back spot on, lastly it wasn't cheap.

So given all of that I feel confident that its real, i'll run it at the dose I suggested and I guess we will see.

Mast im a big fan of and will definitely use it, Tren on the other hand knocks me about a bit, buy that I mean the lack of appetite and the insomnia is bad so I think i'll limit its use until the last 12 weeks. How do you combat the Tren sides or are you one of the lucky ones that doesn't suffer.

I won't ask you to put together a list of how you would use these compounds as you have already done a similar thing earlier on in this thread, time for me to do some of my own home work.

Once I have everything written down could you give me your opinion on how it looks.

Cheers.

[Metalject]

Thanks metal and that's not a weak answer at all just honest, im reasonably sure what I have is primo for the following reasons, this source has been 100% reliable so far, I have done a melting point test on the raw and came back within range, also I have access to a accredited lab as its what I do for work and got a molecular weight done on it and it came back spot on, lastly it wasn't cheap.

So given all of that I feel confident that its real, i'll run it at the dose I suggested and I guess we will see.

Mast im a big fan of and will definitely use it, Tren on the other hand knocks me about a bit, buy that I mean the lack of appetite and the insomnia is bad so I think i'll limit its use until the last 12 weeks. How do you combat the Tren sides or are you one of the lucky ones that doesn't suffer.

I won't ask you to put together a list of how you would use these compounds as you have already done a similar thing earlier on in this thread, time for me to do some of my own home work.

Once I have everything written down could you give me your opinion on how it looks.

Cheers.

Tren's never bothered me, not really. If it's been a while since I used it, the first few wks my heart rate is a little faster and maybe the air conditioner runs a little cooler but that's about it.

Sure, lay it out and I'll give my opinion.

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Tren's never bothered me, not really. If it's been a while since I used it, the first few wks my heart rate is a little faster and maybe the air conditioner runs a little cooler but that's about it.

Sure, lay it out and I'll give my opinion.

Hi metal sorry for the delay here is what I have come up with.

If you could give me your opinion on how it looks that would be great.

Weeks 20-16
1000mg Test E
1000mg Deca
1000mg Primo
5iu Scitropin Aus Pharma GH Mon-Fri
100mcg ED T4
.5 mg EOD Arimadex

Weeks 16-12
1000mg Test E
1000mg Primo
800mg Mast
200mg Deca
5iu Scitropin Mon-Fri
.5mg Arimadex EOD
100mcg T4 ED

Weeks 12-8
1000mg Test E
1000mg Primo
800mg Mast
400mg Tren
200mg Deca
5iu Scitropin Mon-Fri
.5mg Arimadex EOD
50mcg T3 ED

Weeks 8-4
1000mg Test E
1000mg Primo
800mg Mast
400mg tren
150mg ED Anavar
50mg ED Winstrol
5iu Scitropin Mon-Fri
.5mg Arimadex
75mcg ED T3 ED

Weeks 4-2
250mg Test E
1000mg Primo
800mg Mast
400mg Tren
150mg ED Anavar
50mg Winstrol ED
5iu Scitropin Mon-fri
.5mg Arimadex
100mcg T3 ED

Comp week
200mg Anavar ED
100mg Winstrol ED
1mg Arimadex ED

Cheers metal, and thanks for taking the time to look at his for me.

[Metalject]

Hi metal sorry for the delay here is what I have come up with.

If you could give me your opinion on how it looks that would be great.

Weeks 20-16
1000mg Test E
1000mg Deca
1000mg Primo
5iu Scitropin Aus Pharma GH Mon-Fri
100mcg ED T4
.5 mg EOD Arimadex

Weeks 16-12
1000mg Test E
1000mg Primo
800mg Mast
200mg Deca
5iu Scitropin Mon-Fri
.5mg Arimadex EOD
100mcg T4 ED

Weeks 12-8
1000mg Test E
1000mg Primo
800mg Mast
400mg Tren
200mg Deca
5iu Scitropin Mon-Fri
.5mg Arimadex EOD
50mcg T3 ED

Weeks 8-4
1000mg Test E
1000mg Primo
800mg Mast
400mg tren
150mg ED Anavar
50mg ED Winstrol
5iu Scitropin Mon-Fri
.5mg Arimadex
75mcg ED T3 ED

Weeks 4-2
250mg Test E
1000mg Primo
800mg Mast
400mg Tren
150mg ED Anavar
50mg Winstrol ED
5iu Scitropin Mon-fri
.5mg Arimadex
100mcg T3 ED

Comp week
200mg Anavar ED
100mg Winstrol ED
1mg Arimadex ED

Cheers metal, and thanks for taking the time to look at his for me.

My $.02

1. I'd probably wait on the Primo and either use more test the first 8wks just because test is cheaper and you're still very far out at this point.

2. I'd consider doubling the Tren, particularly the last 8wks, 700-1000mg/wk

3. If you're looking great 4wks out I wouldn't mess with dropping the test down but if it looks like it would help I would. Just play it by ear and see how you look. The longer you can keep the test high the better.

4. I would run the Tren and Masteron up to the day of the show. You're not going to hold any water because of these two.

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My $.02

1. I'd probably wait on the Primo and either use more test the first 8wks just because test is cheaper and you're still very far out at this point.

2. I'd consider doubling the Tren, particularly the last 8wks, 700-1000mg/wk

3. If you're looking great 4wks out I wouldn't mess with dropping the test down but if it looks like it would help I would. Just play it by ear and see how you look. The longer you can keep the test high the better.

4. I would run the Tren and Masteron up to the day of the show. You're not going to hold any water because of these two.

Thanks metal, sound advice.

From what I can gather buy keeping estro under control running test high can keep you looking fuller.

But like you said you need to play this buy ear.

I wasn't sure about running any injectable's the last week but what you said about Mast and Tren makes sense.

I think I've heard you mention running Oxymetholone the last couple of weeks before your comp, I would imagine that you really need to be lean for this to work and have a good grip on estrogen control.

Give that those two factors are right could you tell me how you would you use it and maybe how much you would use.

Cheers.

[Metalject]

Thanks metal, sound advice.

From what I can gather buy keeping estro under control running test high can keep you looking fuller.

But like you said you need to play this buy ear.

I wasn't sure about running any injectable's the last week but what you said about Mast and Tren makes sense.

I think I've heard you mention running Oxymetholone the last couple of weeks before your comp, I would imagine that you really need to be lean for this to work and have a good grip on estrogen control.

Give that those two factors are right could you tell me how you would you use it and maybe how much you would use.

Cheers.

I'd use 50mg/ed the last 2-3wks. It really doesn't take much.