Quote Originally Posted by Varenagan View Post
Age 23 (a little young)
Height 5,11
Weight 168lbs
BF 20 percent. (too high for AAS)
This is my first cycle. (first cycle should be testosterone only) I hear these 2 work well together and don't know which to choose.
Quote Originally Posted by tice1212 View Post
Bro don't touch any AAS here's why.
1. Do u know what AAS means? If no you haven't done ur research.
2. Ur 23, their is a great chance (not true. he is on the verge of full hormonal development. Hard to tell. There is probably a slightly more than remote chance of damage due to age) u will mess up ur naturel testosterone for the rest of ur life (low test) wait until ur at least 25
3. Ur 5,11, 168lbs @ 20%bf! bro with these stats I can tell you just started lifting about a year ago. (almost sounds like he just started lifting imho)
4. If you start a test cycle at 20%bf u are going to see a crazy amount of side effects.
Quote Originally Posted by Varenagan View Post
Why train natural when I can take gear? Doesn't make sense.
Androgenic anabolic steroids I know.
Steroids are a drug. Not a magic pill. Any drug you put into your body should be well understood before doing so. Taking ANY drugs should be avoided. You can easily avoid taking drugs because you have other options. These options are spending time in the gym and eating correctly. This alone will give you great benefits the first six months. You may consider taking steroids only after everything else is done. Your flabbiness indicates a lack of nutritional knowledge. How often do you go through the drive through at McDonalds each week? Additionally, your stats, including weight and bf% estimate, indicates a lack of knowledge in the gym. Your questions indicate a lack of knowledge of this drug we call steroids (AAS).

You know absolutely nothing about what we do, and the first thing you want to do is take drugs?

I'm sorry mate. I've seen too many in the same position as you wind up getting hurt because of their ignorance.

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Good luck!
---Roman