Honest man if you're going to be using clen not a bad choice exept the heart condition risk and high blood presure risks aspecialy after a test cycle. But its a good drug works very well but only if you're diet is 100% in check myself has not used it but buddy of mine that does bodybuilding. Also you have to up the cardio a bit with it. Its multiple things combined with the drug that makes it work well NOT the drug itself