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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    If you're that nervous, you'll likely experience vasovagal syncope.
    Fun times that vasovagal syncope. I've caught my fair share of patients passing out from needles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    If you're that nervous, you'll likely experience vasovagal syncope.
    Yes, I can see that happening. This is why I want to do subq. If I apply ED 0.23cc (44mg) subq, would that be an acceptable work-around? I don't want to give up on my cycle.

    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Injecting any amount SQ won't fix your problem.
    Your pain is mostly being caused by the concentration of test and solvents. Pain within 24 hours is usually caused by solvents (BA). Pain after this time is usually caused by crystallization and hydrolization. Hypothetically speaking lets say 100mg of test p dissolved in 1ml of oil will diffuse throughout the body 48 hours. If that concentration is increased to 200mg of test in 1ml of oil 48 hours later all the oil will be diffused but 50mg of test will remain. This remaining test is then crystallizing and hydrolyzing into propanoic acid in a small area, causing intense pain and inflammation. Your pain would be less severe if you were injection 100mg/ml than if you were injecting 200mg/ml. Like I said in your last thread I see three options for you either you suffer through the pain, stop and go into PCT, or cut you injections 50/50 with sterile filtered oil.
    The pain in my arm was not so bad, I was worried because it was red and warm (resolved now). In my glute it is more painful but I was expecting that as I fudged the injection. Anyway, that is a different issue. I'm not consciously afraid of the pip, I can deal with mild discomfort as long as I know it is nothing to worry about. Today for some reason I have a mental block, completely unable to go through with the injection. I wasn't fearful of the injection or dreading the moment or anything. I started out as normal, prepared my space got all the material ready was even feeling less nervous (initially) than I did the first day but then it didn't happen. (details in the original post above). And then an anxiety attack was triggered and the rest I already wrote above.

    This is why I want to do subq. Not because I think it will be less painful. Simply because it is an injection I thnk I can actually go through with quite easily, even daily, without triggering another episode.

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