TRT due to steroid abuse

[vinny t]

According to this calculator 50 ng/dl = 1.735 nmol/l
Testosterone ng/dL nmol/L Unit Conversion -- EndMemo

Test done, just standard blood test, Free and Total, LH and FSH and all the rest...this was 5yrs ago, I don't remember every last panel on there but all the other standard things like CBC and lipids and all that were on there.

Anyway, Once I started TRT, it had been 1.5yrs since I had touched any gear of any kind....without TRT my levels are tanked, with TRT I'm good. I should also note my thyroid is fine despite years of T3 use...IMO, the hype and fear surrounding T3 is blown way out of proportion, but that's another argument/discussion.

As far as how long...I took a blood test and had a doctors appt. That was it, didn't take long.
I'm secondary....most guys who have low testosterone due to steroid use are secondary, not primary.

Im primary as my LH and FSH levels are very high and test levels very low ..

I thought most would be primary as the testcles will have been not having to work for the duration of steroid use thus rendering them innactive , .

I thought secondary was due to not having LH anfd FSH signals sent due to some disorder with the pituaty.

[Metalject]

Im primary as my LH and FSH levels are very high and test levels very low ..

I thought most would be primary as the testcles will have been not having to work for the duration of steroid use thus rendering them innactive , .

I thought secondary was due to not having LH anfd FSH signals sent due to some disorder with the pituaty.

Steroids shut down the production of LH and FSH, which as you said causes the testicles to stop producing testosterone. However, that doesn't mean the testicles are dead. If they were completely dead HCG would have no affect on them or at least very little. This is also why some steroid users can successfully attempt a restart of their HPTA, which is the restart of adequate LH and FSH production, primarily LH. Granted, restarts aren't successful at a high rate...the more than not find their test levels fall back down once the treatment is over, but it does have a chance of working for some guys, generally young guys. Middle age and up or guys that have years and years of steroid use under their belt, I'd be shocked if a restart worked.

[vinny t]

Steroids shut down the production of LH and FSH, which as you said causes the testicles to stop producing testosterone. However, that doesn't mean the testicles are dead. If they were completely dead HCG would have no affect on them or at least very little. This is also why some steroid users can successfully attempt a restart of their HPTA, which is the restart of adequate LH and FSH production, primarily LH. Granted, restarts aren't successful at a high rate...the more than not find their test levels fall back down once the treatment is over, but it does have a chance of working for some guys, generally young guys. Middle age and up or guys that have years and years of steroid use under their belt, I'd be shocked if a restart worked.

i have been on TRT for 4 years 6 months ago in Jan i was taken off trt with a view to restoring my natural test

these are by blood test results

So this is 6 months since stopping trt from jan to present day


So in summary

3 weeks after last shot testosterone 10.0 nmol/l lh 0.1 (1.0-8.0) fsh 0.3 (1.0-11)

7 weeks after last shot testosterone 8.6 nmol/l lh 0.1 (1.0-8.0) fsh 0.3 (1.0-11)

10 weeks after last shot testosterone 6.8 nmol/l lh 0.1 (1.0-8.0) fsh 0.3 (1.0-11)

14 weeks after last shot testosterone 3.4 nmol/l lh 0.8 (1.0-8.0) fsh 4.0 (1.0-11)

16 weeks after last shot testosterone 1.8 nmol/l lh 5.6 (1.0-8.0) fsh 11 (1.0-11)

24 weeks after last shot testosterone 1.4 nmol/l lh 13 (1.0-8.0) fsh 17 (1.0-11)

My endo said he wants to keep me off TRT and see if my natural testosterone returns and re test me in 6 months time he said its only now that my Lh and fsh have been really elevated and giving my testicles chance to repond