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You CAN cycle year round... Some things to go along with that is a permanently crashed endo and thus needing TRT for the rest of your natural life, high BP and hardened arterial walls and greatly increased risk for heart attack and stroke... That's why people don't do it. lol
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If our bodies were meant to produce the levels of testosterone that come from cycling, we would already be doing so. Asking the question, implies a lack of understanding of the risks. Hypertension, hyperlipidemia, elevated hematocrit, hemoglobin, RBCs, hypercholesterolemia, prostate enlargement, and immunosuppression are not only risks but realities of cycling.
There is a reason why everything is done in MODERATION. Your body needs time to recover. All too often, people think "well that won't happen to me" or "I feel fine". Ask someone who has had a stroke or heart attack if they knew they were headed for trouble before a serious event happened. No, I'm not implying that if you cycle year round you will have a heart attack, stroke, etc. Rather, many times, there can be adverse factors occurring in your body that could build towards a major event and the signs and symptoms may be subtle or nearly non-existent.
There is simply no reason to cycle year round. It's abusive and disrespectful of the compounds and your body. Its easy to read the threads about guys discussing their glorious results from a few cycles. Unfortunately, the guys who injure themselves many times are less forthcoming unless they are here seeking advice to correct a problem.
We have an 18 year old kid here logging his cycle results. Hopefully IF he has problems in the years ahead, he'll extend the same courtesy to other members and report back to advise them of the mistakes he may have made and the problems he created. Many however, won't, out of embarrassment and fear of disdain for something they were told they shouldn't do. It's easy to boast about great results. It takes more much humility to post about your mistakes.
Bottom line......don't abuse the gear or your body. It WILL bite you in the ass.
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Glad to see you respond on this thread and with a reply that indicates your appreciation for the risks. Though I don't condone cycling at your age, its your decision to make.Originally Posted by Deequarius
Stay safe and stick around for years to come. Keep giving back and pay the help you receive from this board forward.
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Thanks man! And definitely! I never expected people to accept me cycling at my age but it sure does feel nice to get some positive feedback from someone for a change! I really appreciate all the input and knowledge that I have gained from people around this forum. It has been invaluable to say the least!Glad to see you respond on this thread and with a reply that indicates your appreciation for the risks. Though I don't condone cycling at your age, its your decision to make.
Stay safe and stick around for years to come. Keep giving back and pay the help you receive from this board forward.
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What a ****ing stupid question.
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of course you can cycle all year around, but will be a short lived experience!
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Assuming that this question isn't "trolling" there is no such thing as a stupid question here.
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Agree with MI. We don't condone or recommend it but you are at least making every effort to do things correctly. And your acceptance is based on how you present yourself and interact with others here. And you do that well.
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I've been on since 2008. Just not at cycle doses. I do occasional low dose cycles like the one I'm on now (375 mg/week test, 40 mg/day var, 40 mcg/day T3) followed by a few months at 200 mg/week test. I also take aromasin and HCG year round.
I get regular blood work done, of course, and I know I'll be on test for life. I'm happy about being on for life. I feel better now at 39 than I did in my 20s. I don't believe the way I cycle is detrimental to my health. Even if it shortens my lifespan to some extent, it's worth it. I don't want the testosterone levels of an old man. I want high testosterone levels for the rest of my life.
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Really???
Isn't the definition of bad for your health something that shortens your lifespan?
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Health and lifespan are not that related...
Id raTher die at 70 of a stroke while jogging than at 90 being maintain in life by machine, pills and having my ass whipped everytime I shit myself...
IMO the first option is healthier...
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I don't believe it will shorten my lifespan. I said it would be worth it even if it did.
TRT plus occasional low dose cycles shouldn't be a big risk as long as I get regular blood work to make sure everything's in check.
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Listen, I am all for living life to its fullest. Hell, I'm on a cycle right now.
I am not anti steroids or other things.
However, I think one is living in a dream land if they don't admit that there are risks that come with all the side effects.
High blood pressure is bad for one's health.
Messed up lipids is bad for one's health.
Overly thick blood is bad for one's health.
Etc, etc, etc...
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Yes sir! Hypertension, poor lipid metabolism, and changes in insulin growth factors are three of many risk factors linked to a number of neurodegenerative disorders (and other diseases).
Pretty ignorant IMO to be so carefree about longevity and to dismiss the fact that you could spend the last one or two decades of your life with various forms of dementia (vascular dementia, Alzheimer's disease, Lewy Body disease, Picks Disease). Go observe individuals and their families struggling with neurodegenerative disorders and you'll appreciate how important a HEALTHY and LONG life.
I've worked with many cancer patients over the years as well. I've never met one yet who was happy to die early. They may accept death, but given a choice between living and dying, every person I've every helped would take more life over less.
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Had to look that one up. Lovely.
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Many of the neurodegenerative are so damn insidious and have no treatments.
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Like a few women I know....
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If they aren't nuts, they're driving other people nuts!
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Oh ok, then i have a question: is it ok to put my Cocker Spaniel on a test cyp cycle for 8 weeks? Or if not cyp what is the best steroid cycle for a canine? He has a frisbee competition coming up in less than 2 months, No trolling.
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Chill bro. Given I think this guy should have looked this information up for himself without creating an entire thread for it but nonetheless he is trying to better himself by obtaining knowledge he didn't already possess.
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Muscle Ink, serious question. Is that you in the avatar? If so, are you telling us that you come completely off gear and still look that great?
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Do you know anything about testosterone replacement therapy? Older men with high normal test levels have lower rates of heart disease than older men with low test. TRT should increase the average lifespan when done correctly. Steadily declining natural testosterone as we get older brings more risks than properly done TRT.
I'm already on medication for high blood pressure. It's well within the safe range at all times. I give blood when my hematocrit gets near the top of the range. Anavar can mess with blood lipids temporarily, but my HDL and LDL numbers are great off cycle. This is my last cycle with var anyway.
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No sir, not me in the avatar. Equally bald but more handsome!
I'm on TRT between cycles because without TRT my total T is about 160, unbound T is 3.8.
My weight has dropped off from 194 in 45 days due to cutting and a heavy travel schedule that has kept my cals low.
Maintaining LBM has much more to do with nutrition than gear. If you underfeed, all the gear in the world won't stop you from losing LBM.
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I'm underfeeding and getting stronger (thanks to test and tren).
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Give tren ALL the respect it deserves. I didn't and it put my ass in the hospital this week.
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I am truly sorry to hear that. What happened?
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Why do you want to?
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what a fuking stupid question
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You'll regret it, trust me. One day you will regret starting at such a young age when there is no need to.
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Time for that yearly eye exam!Equally bald but more handsome!
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Only if the ophthalmologist is a hot Asian lady.
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Arent they all? Mine is, yes really. So is my GP doctor, Asian female. Yeah I'm not sure how that happens that I seem to surround myself with Asian females. You would think I'm doing it on purpose or something. Oh yeah so is my pain management doctor.Only if the ophthalmologist is a hot Asian lady.
My dentist isnt Asian though.but her assistant who does the cleanings and xrays are. Does that count?
I'm thinking that being on year round at some point you would be getting diminishing results.
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