PIP from hell

[dk94]

ive been injecting 50mgs test prop EOD along with 75mg test enth, most times the pip is not bad but on one of my last shots in my delt the PIP did not subside for a week. It was very intense, interfering with my sleep and daily activities. Im alternating my delts and glutes from injection sites. If all 4 are sore, would it be effective to do a sub-Q test injection?

[michael30]

Ive done sub q test p. They can be painful and leave a bruise. Best way i found to do it is cut it with test e or c. Or if i dont do that i inject several time with small amounts, like .2-.3ml anything over .4ml and it left me with a painful lump. But cutting it or small injections werent bad at all. Hopw that helps

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I was doing test prop subQ.
I was was injecting .5cc of 100mg/ml test prop.
I had to stop. Intense pain, welts, and bruises lasting a week.
I have since cut my prop with sterile grape seed oil and have been doing IM.
I haven't tried subQ with the cut prop because I've read not to do more than .5cc subQ.
I am still getting some PIP but this is my first cycle so it might be virgin muscle, bad technique, etc. etc.

[David LoPan]

No thanks with the strong PIP pain. I would not use it anymore or cut it with another test ester like test c or e.

[dk94]

im finishing off the cycle, 8 more weeks or so but im not doing proponate any more

[600@50]

Add in quads as another pin site. What size needle are you using? How long does it take for you to pin? You need to go slow. Somewhere around a minute per ml to minimize pip.

[dk94]

wow a minute per mil, i did not know that. I use 25 for injections and squeeze a ml within 10-15 seconds

[Darkness]

wow a minute per mil, i did not know that. I use 25 for injections and squeeze a ml within 10-15 seconds

Jeeebus why're you in such a hurry? You're not injecting slin, its oil, too much pressure and it cavitates (look it up), it also quirts at higher pressure which causes more tissue damage/inflamation. Just think of it, if doesnt only take 10.15 secs to pull it out of the vial.

What I've done for nearly 15 years and never had much pip is, warm up the gear inside the syringe under running warm water, makes for smoother pin and take your time. Like 600 said, 1ml/min is about right.

[tdoe11]

Who made the test?

[Chicagotarsier]

1. Brew your own test with 1% BA. Zero PIP for test P.
2. Deeper the shot and slower the less pain for me. I cannot consider anything but the glute
3. Pain is from the BA. People tend to brew a 5%. Insanity.

I am injecting 3.5ml EoD and it takes me 5 minutes to do the pin. I get a lump feeling but no PiP.

[dk94]

Who made the test?

Synergy from Canada

[redz]

Gear should not be painful in general unless it is high concentration and even still it can be painless even at 400mg/ml.

[Black]

Try filtering and pressure cooking it (You should do this with any UGL you buy, unless you know their process/trust them). May help some, but with UGL, you don't know how much BA was used.

[Cuz]

Heat your oil. Inject slower. Should help.

[dk94]

Great, thanks for the responses. The harsh pip has been hit and miss. I will adjust how i inject, im sure it will help