I want my balls back

[LegendKiller85]

I been on trt for three years and a few blast here and there.My nuts have almost turned into grapes lost like 60% my balls.I took hcg most of the time 500iu ew.I think my last deca run finished my balls off.They are achy and sad looking all dick and no balls lol I was thinking of dropping dose down to 50mg ew and blast hcg and hmg and Clomid 100mg ed for 6-8 weeks.I dont really want come off just want regain my balls.Any suggestions?

[Times Roman]

ball envy?

[< <Samson> >]

Well this is a new one



I am considering changing my user name to shaft



The smaller the potatoes the bigger the steak looks

[LegendKiller85]

Yea I thought like this for a while but I'm scared there going to be permanetly suppressed.

[LegendKiller85]

Like I said I don't want come off.Just use super low dose to prevent crashing maybe idk im sure some vets delt with this.

[motobrox]

I been on trt for three years and a few blast here and there.My nuts have almost turned into grapes lost like 60% my balls.I took hcg most of the time 500iu ew.I think my last deca run finished my balls off.They are achy and sad looking all dick and no balls lol I was thinking of dropping dose down to 50mg ew and blast hcg and hmg and Clomid 100mg ed for 6-8 weeks.I dont really want come off just want regain my balls.Any suggestions?

One of the other forums has a huge thread on pct / Trt. Backed by some anonymous doc. Suggesting 2 x 2500iu hcg weekly, for 2 weeks. Then a fairly std tam / clomid regime.

[< <Samson> >]

I'd pass on that much HCG


But, I run Clomid once a year now for about a month to 2. It helps me to at be able to blast off real loads. But, what you described sounds about average.

[Ashop]

One of the other forums has a huge thread on pct / Trt. Backed by some anonymous doc. Suggesting 2 x 2500iu hcg weekly, for 2 weeks. Then a fairly std tam / clomid regime.

This is a practice a lot of doctors will use. Thats alot of HCG but consiidering only 4 days over 2 weeks it should be fine.

[Dougiefresh7707]

When I started I could use some shrinkage haha.

[< <Samson> >]

Well considering the thread - I really don't care to have big saggy nuts. At least nothing else shrinks. . . . lol

[Dougiefresh7707]

Well considering the thread - I really don't care to have big saggy nuts. At least nothing else shrinks. . . . lol

Yea true and hey they say with HGH everything gets bigger sounds appealing.

[< <Samson> >]

Yea true and hey they say with HGH everything gets bigger sounds appealing.

Aside a GH gut or a enlarged heart

[lucabratzi]

Op brings up a point i meant to ask. While I was on test alone my balls were achy as hell and shrunk a ton even w hcg.

I know atrophy is still common even w hcg use but is it common to have them achy as hell on just 500mg/wk test ?

[Dougiefresh7707]

Op brings up a point i meant to ask. While I was on test alone my balls were achy as hell and shrunk a ton even w hcg. I know atrophy is still common even w hcg use but is it common to have them achy as hell on just 500mg/wk test ?

Well I guess everyone is different my balls were achy when I accidentally did 5000iu at once. But I guess atrophy can cause them to ache too. I don't believe that's hcg keeps you balls running 24/7 I'm pretty sure that they shit back down before you inject again.

[lovbyts]

Well lets this be a lesson to some of the 18-19 year olds out there who think going on TRT when you are young is a good idea or doing cycles when young. Sometimes issues dont show their ugly head for a long time.

You turn 29 this month, right? Why did you start TRT? Are you sure your HCG is real?
You are still young enough to try coming off TRT and restart although the chances are slim but better than non.

[LegendKiller85]

Well lets this be a lesson to some of the 18-19 year olds out there who think going on TRT when you are young is a good idea or doing cycles when young. Sometimes issues dont show their ugly head for a long time.

You turn 29 this month, right? Why did you start TRT? Are you sure your HCG is real?
You are still young enough to try coming off TRT and restart although the chances are slim but better than non.

I started trt at 26 I really had low test levels before trt but I also use to do cycles before trt with full pct's.I waited a year after a cycle with full pct and went got my test levels checked and was 240.Like u said I was happy to get on trt at the time but now I hate it and burnt out on it.I'm on my 2nd month of hgh so I think I will taper the dose down and add Igf-1-lr3 next month and just do a pct for a few months.I also check my hcg on a pregnancy test.

[LegendKiller85]

To all the 18-19 years old thinking about trt don't do it.By the time your 30 you will be kicking your self in the ass and really regret it.

[sixfootseven]

Ive come across guys saying igf-1 lr3 to combat shrinkage a number of times.

I ran hcg during both of my cycles, and experienced atrophy on both. The first cycle i think my balls didnt fully come back for some time after pct.

However the 2nd one i used lr3 starting in the last week of my cycle and my balls were back as much as ever after 1-2 weeks. It also helped me retain some mass. But when pct was over and i dropped the igf i did lose a little.

Just an idea.

[LegendKiller85]

I have Igf-1-lr3 on hand enough for my entire pct along with 3iu genos ed.I think dropping the test and letting my balls and receptors restore will be more beneficial for future gains.I never tried hmg I hear one shot can do more then a whole 5,000iu bottle of hcg could.I have 6 bottles on hand so hopefully it works as good as some claim.I will run clomid nolvadex and armosin for pct Clomid and extra two weeks along with high tribulus and zinc doses.If I'm fully recovered I will drop trt and do shorter cycles for now on 8-10 weeks of fast acting compounds.

[LegendKiller85]

Just do a shot of prop a few days before I go do blood work so I can keep getting Watson test forever.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Just do a shot of prop a few days before I go do blood work so I can keep getting Watson test forever.

That would make you levels high, I'm confused?

[hawk14dl]

For what it's worth, I take 350iu 2x a week for my trt, no shrinkage at all. I'm also 28.

[< <Samson> >]

After being on this long & running HCG @ 250iu e3d I would say the size loss is about 25-30% realistically


I could care less, I kinda think it's a benefit

[sixfootseven]

Didnt know you could just stop trt whenever you like?

Just run the igf w your trt and hcg and see if it helps, if not then think sbout another strategy.

[lovbyts]

Didnt know you could just stop trt whenever you like?

Just run the igf w your trt and hcg and see if it helps, if not then think sbout another strategy.

Sure you can, but you go back to feeling like crap before you started trt or worse in most cases. There are a few instances where people are able to restart their natural test because they should not have been on trt in the first place and it's typically a long process so you will feel like crap, tired, depressed for weeks or months.

[2iron]

Trt! I hate thinking about a saying my mom used to say. "Be careful what you wish for you just might get it. "

any how. The endo i see (kaiser if that makes a diff) says I can take all the hcg I want my balls are still going to shrink.

[< <Samson> >]

I can take all the hcg I want my balls are still going to shrink.

Oh yeah, totally believe it.

It's just how it is - I pound 500iu a week & they do seem like they are still consistently shrinking a tiny bit at a time.

[Bodacious]

If they still going to shrink why take it?

[< <Samson> >]

If they still going to shrink why take it?

Not as much, from what I can tell


Without HCG, after my first run - I was like wow, I guess juice dose do that. With HCG, it's semi noticiable

[Dougiefresh7707]

I shrivel them up so I can hit raw dog and not worry haha.

[lucabratzi]

If they still going to shrink why take it?

Stopping testicular atrophy isn't the reason behind taking hcg. It's to stimulate ur body to continue producing its own test. I'm no where near an expert but I know it doesn't stimulate all areas of testicular function so that's prob why they still shrink. Could just be my bro science that I made up.

I was using hcg from a doc and my balls were literally in my stomach in the mornings and during sex. I'd have to push them down after just to get them to drop a little. Graphic but just my experience

[hawk14dl]

Oh yeah, totally believe it.

It's just how it is - I pound 500iu a week & they do seem like they are still consistently shrinking a tiny bit at a time.

Samson aren't you a weak responder?

[< <Samson> >]

Samson aren't you a weak responder?

I seem to be to all injectables. Not many guys I know can run gear into high volumes I do without sides.

[hawk14dl]

Just wanted to point that out so that nobody thought 500iu 2x a week was necessary

[< <Samson> >]

Just wanted to point that out so that nobody thought 500iu 2x a week was necessary

Oh shit, I meant to say 500iu a week. 250iu x2

When I ran 250iu EOD my nuts hurt. . . lol


1000 a week seems over kill

[hawk14dl]

You know, going back and reading you DID say 500 a week. My bad.

Perhaps you should try 350 2x a week?

[LegendKiller85]

Do any of you all have any experience with hmg? I wonder what it would do on cycle? Not many ppl have used it.I paid a lot money for 6 measly vials.

[LegendKiller85]

Might just cruise on tren e and say **** it!!!! Jk I think I will try the Igf-1-lr3 and hcg and 50mg clomid 10 mg nolvadex and 100mg test ew.For a month or so.I will be a test subject for your balls in the future.

[kelkel]

To all the 18-19 years old thinking about trt don't do it.By the time your 30 you will be kicking your self in the ass and really regret it.

Plus you'll have "sad" balls. Nothing worse than that.

[LegendKiller85]

Well when you went from large plump to grapes not the best thing man.It didn't happen overnight and I followed proper procedures.Good thing I got a decent twig to make up for my small berries