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    Third cycle advice

    Evening.

    Im torn between two different compounds. I'm looking to do a cut/lean mass cycle Feb next year. Its going to be a short ester cycle for 8 weeks.

    Im thinking...

    Test prop 150mg EOD as a base... Then I either want to run tren ace at a low dose so about 75mg EOD orrrr winstrol at 60mg ED.

    What do you think/reccomend?

    I want to run tren but I'm not to happy with the night sweats/insomnia all the other sides dont worry but i really value my sleep lol.

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    Have you already run Tren in the past? When you bulk you're going to gain fat, just the way it is. When you cut, you're gonna lose some muscle. I've just not been very successful doing a bulk/cut AIO cycle. If you plan on cutting or bulking I think you'll have a better cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    Have you already run Tren in the past? When you bulk you're going to gain fat, just the way it is. When you cut, you're gonna lose some muscle. I've just not been very successful doing a bulk/cut AIO cycle. If you plan on cutting or bulking I think you'll have a better cycle.
    I haven't ran tren before.. I have used both anavar and test e on two separate cycles. Absolutely, I understand that but I'm also under the impression that tren will reduce body fat and increase lean mass obviously providing your diet is sufficent. When I start the cycle my body fat will be about 15% so I won't go into to much of a calorie deficit, but I will bring down carbs slightly.

    Would you reccomend tren? I was thinking ...

    Test prop 150mg EOD week1-8
    Tren ace 50mg EOD week 1-3
    Tren ace 75mg EOD week 3-8

    On top of this I'll use an AI even though both don't aromatise as much as long esters, I will also use HCG 500iu per week up until PCT.

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    I would do tren just because I love the stuff if you do decide to run the tren run your prop only 20 to 30mg a day keeps sides of the tren down do a quick Google search low test high tren cycle and you should see what I'm talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by swolehead View Post
    I would do tren just because I love the stuff if you do decide to run the tren run your prop only 20 to 30mg a day keeps sides of the tren down do a quick Google search low test high tren cycle and you should see what I'm talking about
    Yeah Im going to go with tren.

    I was thinking test prop 100mg EOD tren ace 50-75mg EOD to start with? Do you think ed injections to keep blood stable?

    Cabergoline... I know this reduces chances of getting gyno (not estrogeon based) but will id stop the erectile dysfunction? Aka..tren dick anyone know?
    Last edited by Muscleduke; 11-21-2014 at 02:55 PM.

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    Read my thread - from beginner to the results of the 10 week cycle and make your own mind up from that.

    Unfortunately due to the 25 post rule I can't link the thread.

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    I noticed a huge difference from everyday and everyother day if you can handle ed injections I recommend doing that from the beginning. I don't know much bout tren dick but more estrogen increases tren sides hence low test. also I had no problem getting it up wat so ever and actualy had a major increase in libido wen I added the tren into my cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by swolehead View Post
    I noticed a huge difference from everyday and everyother day if you can handle ed injections I recommend doing that from the beginning. I don't know much bout tren dick but more estrogen increases tren sides hence low test. also I had no problem getting it up wat so ever and actualy had a major increase in libido wen I added the tren into my cycle
    Great, very helpful info. What differences did you notice when going from EOD pins to ED pins? If it is going to reduce insomnia I'm willing to inject ED.. Sleep is my main worry with tren to be honest

    I'm thinking of doing this as a first, please critique guys!!

    Week 1 - 9 / Test P @ 25mg ED
    Week 1-2 / Tren A @ 25mg ED
    Week 2 - 8 / Tren A @ 50mg ED
    Week 1 - 8 / Arimidex @ 0.25mg EOD
    Week 1 - 8 / Cabergoline @ 0.25 E3D
    Week 1 - 8 / HCG @ 250iu E3D

    Pct 3 days after last injection
    Clomid @ 75/50/50/50
    Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20


    Pct 3 days after last injection
    Clomid @ 75/50/50/50
    Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20
    Last edited by Muscleduke; 11-23-2014 at 01:03 AM.

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    Bumppppp

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    the only sides I realy got frI'm the tren was mood swings and little things just pissing you off but I just tell myself I know why and to relax. but the main reason I switched was because I was breaking out bad and it almost completely went away within a week of ed injections. everything looks good to me btw might not need the caber but hopefully someone els has better insight

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    Quote Originally Posted by swolehead View Post
    the only sides I realy got frI'm the tren was mood swings and little things just pissing you off but I just tell myself I know why and to relax. but the main reason I switched was because I was breaking out bad and it almost completely went away within a week of ed injections. everything looks good to me btw might not need the caber but hopefully someone els has better insight

    Great... Thanks for your In put mate very helpful.

    Anyone else have any input on above cycle?
    Last edited by Muscleduke; 11-23-2014 at 06:53 AM.

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