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    Of course we(Christian/Ango/HellenicOrthodox Serb) are fighting the Crusades again..well We are fighting a Crusade(Jihad) against us.
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    Islam doesnt preach killing one self. In fact suicide is condemned in Islam. The problem that arises is that the Muslim leaders preach their spin and rhetoric of the Kuran to the ignorant(not knowing people) now and always have. It is similar to when the Church was the most powerful object in Judeo-Christian society 500+ years ago because they were the only literate group and the only ones who could "read" the bible.

    Like in the Palestine problem. In the early 20th century Britain promised Arabs Palestine. They soon changed their mind and gave it to the Jews, Balfour Declaration (1917), as Rothschild was financing their war effort. 1918 the Arab leaders release the Hogarth Message to Britain saying that they got screwed. It isnt until The Arab Awakening is published in 1938 that the Arab public is made aware. That is 20 years of ignorance! That same year, 1938, Britain releases the MacDonald White Papers. Jews must remain a minority, two state system impossible but Arabs should have government roles, and the most powerful is that Jewish immigration is limited to 50,000 over 5 years with 25000 immigrants. The latter being a contributing factor in the annhilation of Jews during the Holocaust. Throughout this period and up to today, Zionists and then Israelis have agreed to Two state systems with the Arabs saying that only proper place for Jews is in the Mediterranian Sea. It is all or nothing!

    Back to the point, suicide is an embarrassment. Dying in battle fighting for your religion is holy. So the leaders claim they are in Jihad, and that they are killing enemies before they kill themselves, as western labeled "suicide bombers", and thus they are soldiers. The citizens of the ME are raised with no value of life. They are worth more as martyrs for the cause then as actual human capital. Families are rewarded and idolized for having a son or daughter die. Kids are brought up HOPING to kill themselves as a "suicide bomber." The people of the middle east are brought up with a terrorist mentality! When all you see on TV is propaganda for suicide bombing and kids are taught in school how to be bombers, becoming a terrorist is the logical result. Although I feel I am fairly liberal, the only way to deal with Terrorism is with an iron fist. Turning a shoulder and promoting love to and saying the result is it will go away is a reality. For the most part, you give them an inch and they will take a foot. If they had a choice they would kill you and they will kill me.

    It has been said that countries/regions get terms of world power. Right now the middle east has tremendous power because of oil. Many alternative fuels and sources of energy are being developed as we speak. In the next 20-50 years as Arabs lose their base of power, historians will look back and say what did the Arab leaders do for the people? NOTHING!!! They kept them impoverished, they kept them unhealthy with little to no water available, few industry beyond cottage industry and mom-and-pop shops, and they kept them militant(purposely!). At the same time the leaders took all the money and built lavish palaces and estates.

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