Nebido results (includes blood work)

[FakeLove]

FakeLove,

Can you feel when your E2 levels are rising? If so, why not just take Anastrozole 0.25mg when needed?

As my E2 levels start to rise, I notice flushing around the neck and upper chest, followed by night sweats, then bacne, and if I let it go, water retention and nipple irritation follows. Now, as soon as I notice the flushing, I take Anastrozole 0.25mg, and the symptoms are gone (in my case) in 6 to 11 hours (seemingly depending on what's in my belly).

Charting things on a calendar, I found that I initially took Anastrozole 0.25mg (when symptoms were noticed) fairly regularly, on average every 6 days (sometimes 5 or 7). Over the past 6 months, the frequency has slowed to on average every 8 days. Taking Proviron (Provironum) periodically will extend the frequency further.

That might work if you don't need AI that much. I keep a diary of my doses vs. symptoms. Yes, I can always feel something, but the symptoms are so all around. Making it more difficult, they fluctuate from hour to hour. And it's tricky to evaluate if it's high E2 or low E2 when I'm on Anastrozole already.

Last time, when I was standing at 32 pg/mL I was quite sure that I actually would have been low, being already on Anastrozole 0,25mg eod. Face felt warm, slight night sweat, insomnia, no morning wood, soft erections, dry scalp etc. When I saw the results I was quite amazed. It felt like this is going to be impossible and I even went that far that I thought would there be a way to live without trt, could I bare the pre trt symptoms.

When I eventually went low, it was so similar that it felt even more desperate. Do I need to run E2 labs like every week to figure this out?

Now, being on 0,25mg ed it feels already a bit better. E2 might still be a bit too low, but I don't anymore trust my own judgement at all. Been wrong now every time. At this point it seems that the most reliable measurements are that being too low I still got the morning wood and eventually tight scrotum (that one variates from hour to hour as well...). Other than that it's impossible to say which is it.

I literally hate E2.

[OingoBoingo]

That might work if you don't need AI that much. I keep a diary of my doses vs. symptoms. Yes, I can always feel something, but the symptoms are so all around. Making it more difficult, they fluctuate from hour to hour. And it's tricky to evaluate if it's high E2 or low E2 when I'm on Anastrozole already.

Last time, when I was standing at 32 pg/mL I was quite sure that I actually would have been low, being already on Anastrozole 0,25mg eod. Face felt warm, slight night sweat, insomnia, no morning wood, soft erections, dry scalp etc. When I saw the results I was quite amazed. It felt like this is going to be impossible and I even went that far that I thought would there be a way to live without trt, could I bare the pre trt symptoms.

When I eventually went low, it was so similar that it felt even more desperate. Do I need to run E2 labs like every week to figure this out?

Now, being on 0,25mg ed it feels already a bit better. E2 might still be a bit too low, but I don't anymore trust my own judgement at all. Been wrong now every time. At this point it seems that the most reliable measurements are that being too low I still got the morning wood and eventually tight scrotum (that one variates from hour to hour as well...). Other than that it's impossible to say which is it.

I literally hate E2.

Don't worry about finding a schedule like every x days. I think that's where a lot of guys make a mistake; I know I did. Just let the symptoms be your guide.

Don't take an AI for a couple days, and let your E2 rise until you start to experience symptoms. Then take 0.25mg Anastrozole. That should knock your E2 down for a few days. When symptoms come back, take another dose. Try that for a few cycles, and keep track of when you are taking what. It will help you figure things out.

You can also cut a 0.25mg piece in half to give you 0.125mg pieces if you find that 0.25mg is not enough, or 0.50mg is too much.

Dr. Gordon says guys have E2 problems because they are overdosing on Testosterone. Plain and simple.

The clinic I go to pushes Nebido but I didn't want it because I was concerned about dose control and frequency. If the doc gives you too much, there's nothing you can do but sweat it out; no pun intended.

There are other things that you can do to help manage E2. One important thing is to supplement with Zinc. Dr. Gordon prefers Zinc Citrate. I take 75mg of Zinc per day (30mg with breakfast, 15mg with lunch, and another 30mg about 30 minutes before sleeping), and find that it helps a lot. Another important thing is to watch the alcohol intake; especially beer. I found that only a drink or two would drive my E2 through the roof, and now I abstain (unless I'm on Proviron, but that's another story).

Don't get desperate. Keep your wits about this, and you can crack it!