Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
Also what comes to mind is you said he did the inj for the first 4... No probs, right? So there must be a technique issue IMO!
He did 1-4
I did 5-6
He did 7 (first time red and pain and knot) 8(abscess)
I did 9 (ted pain knot itchy)

I looked into doing quad and I'll probably give it a shot next time. Much easier too reach too I bet. Thanks!

Sorry I typed this pretty quick when waiting for my antibiotics. I do switch from the 18g to the 23g needle when I pin.

My buddy said he used the same draw needle throughout his whole cycle so that's why I went with it. I started using a new one after pin 7 and ordered more. I have seen how much it can dull the draw needle and it was pretty dumb not to just get more since they are cheap.

I have read that if the oil doesn't get deep enough and gets between the skin and muscle it can cause an abscess as well. I don't pull the needle right away and sit for 30 seconds or so before moving after pin then massage it hoping to prevent it. Normally I get a drop of blood back but 7 and 8 were drops of oil, idk if that says anything or not.

Tossing the gear is what I am starting to think is the best option but I'll have to drop the DECA completely I only am doing enough to use one vial for the whole cycle and my guy orders as needed