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    communism does not believe in taxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    communism does not believe in taxes
    But the way communism works is you don't get paid much of anything, enough to survive if you're lucky and you cant own a business unless government allows you to and 99.99% chance you cant be successful or profitable unless you know or are related to someone in the right place.

    The purpose of communism was to serve the needs of the proletariat, communist governments simply became repressive regimes that exploited their people to aggrandize their own power, exploiting the masses even more so than the capitalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    But the way communism works is you don't get paid much of anything, enough to survive if you're lucky and you cant own a business unless government allows you to and 99.99% chance you cant be successful or profitable unless you know or are related to someone in the right place.

    The purpose of communism was to serve the needs of the proletariat, communist governments simply became repressive regimes that exploited their people to aggrandize their own power, exploiting the masses even more so than the capitalists.

    Full proper Communism is one of those things that sounds good but in practice it does not work. Most people need motivation to excel. Communism plays out hand in hand with dictatorships in practical form. No country has ever been "proper communism"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts
    But the way communism works is you don't get paid much of anything, enough to survive if you're lucky and you cant own a business unless government allows you to and 99.99% chance you cant be successful or profitable unless you know or are related to someone in the right place. The purpose of communism was to serve the needs of the proletariat, communist governments simply became repressive regimes that exploited their people to aggrandize their own power, exploiting the masses even more so than the capitalists.
    I'm pretty sure we've never actually seen a true communist state. Even Lenin didn't run it pure. Marx was pretty clear what communism was supposed to be. The U.S. labeled the U.S.S.R/China communist, and they called themselves that, but they were not really. Socialism and communism are really misunderstood political/economic. The U.S, is a social democratic republic, although we're approaching being an oligarchy. Democratic socialist nations like the Netherlands, Finland, and even partly France, they do it correctly. Especially their approach to drug laws. In the Netherlands the police don't even need guns. All the roads are nice. I was just there for three weeks, don't think I once seen a junk car. Sure, some lazy people take advantage, but that is a small price to pay for everyone being taken care of. And taxes on middle class and lower class are not as high as people contend. Especially when you consider healthcare, retirement, and education is all paid for. In Finland teachers make as much as lawyers. You have wealthy people, just that they have to share. So if you business is bringing in billions, you can't pay your employees jack. I think CEO's can make 300 times what they pay their employees. Here they make thousands of times. Anyone, not trying to get in political debate. It just America could learn a lot from the Netherlands.

    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts
    Seattle is planning on doing the same thing. Welcome to the Democratic ran State or USSR... They also just passed another Gas Tax, adding more toll hwy lanes and more.
    The U.S.S.R. was communist in name only. They were authoritarian. And the U.S. has almost never was a true democracy. We started with the powerful controlling stuff, but the easiest 20th century we seen some movement towards democratic reform, such as direct elections for U.S. Senate, and more voting rights. But recently that's been under attack.
    Last edited by Thyroid_cursed77; 07-27-2015 at 11:13 PM.

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