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    HCG on first cycle, I was advised against doing that. But people on this forum seem to insist. Just know, that's a whole other ball game right there. You have to store unused, already mixed solution, in the fridge. So hope your not hiding it from anyone at home. It has some some sides to worry about. It can express testosterone and cause gyno. This site has a wonderful article on it. I wonder why so many people here say you need this, and now on your first cycle. But others don't. This site recommends a smaller dose too. As regards use of Post-Cycle-Therapy (PCT), smaller and more frequent doses after a cycle of AAS would give the best results with the least amount of side effects. A dose of 250iu to 500iu everyday (ed) for 2 to 3 weeks is plenty and should very little from person to person (3). I'll add, HCG isnt the same mechanism that Clomid/Nolva.. HCG maintains the signal to your testicles that mimics the FSH that would otherwise be sent by the HPTA. It maintains some natural testicular output of testosterone and other testicular functions not related to testosterone, and maintains testicular fullness. The second benefit is probably the most important when on a 12 week cycle. I read HCG is important,not in the sense of if you do not have it bad things will happen. It just makes things a little more comfortable. I know many who don't use it at all. I'm no expert, but it certainly not a universal belief that it's needed.
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    HCG is a LH mimetic, not a FSH mimetic. It should not be used as part of any post cycle as it in and of itself is suppressive. Its benefits transcend comfort and psychological well being (although those are real).
    By maintaining leydig cell function in the testis you are not relying on them "coming back". Function can be maintained your entire cycle (stop hcg 3 days pre pct) thus allowing for a faster recovery of HPTA function. Also there are some smaller benefits such as back-filling hormonal pathways.
    The addition of an ai on cycle and the use of hcg on cycle are 2 of the biggest strides I have seen in my time in this game. Both have greatly improved not only results and appearance but more importantly better overall health. HCG allows for a smoother, faster recovery with better gains retention. It is used at low doses as at higher doses leydig cell desensitization has been observed. That is a bad thing. So 250iu's- 2x/week is a great starting point. It works very well for me at that dose and seems to have minimal impact on aromatization as well. I recommend it for everyone, even in the most basic of cycles.
    Start your hcg at 250iu's-2x/week as soon as you get it and run it up to 3 days pre pct. Also run your ai up to the start of your pct as well. In the future you are best to have all this ironed out and everything in hand before you start your cycle.

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