2nd Cycle advice

[NACH3]

I've heard I'd better tried my limits with the injectables first before I use orals. What do you recommend to inject with Enan for an 8-week cycle? Prop? How about the dose? Thanks!

I do like what your saying... I chose var due to its very mild liver toxicity - as long as your taking NAC(N-acetyl-cistine) for liver supplementation you'd be gtg...

However, with adding another injectable you could always frontload w/prop(1-4) on top of your Ethanate dose... And it'll really kick fast... Then you could drop the Ethanate at wk 10 and add back in the prop(11-12) so your pct will start sooner and if diet is on point you'll gain more than you have in your last cycle!

I agree w/Bio in using NPP(nandrolone phenyl propionate) short ester nandrolone just in case something were to happen your not locked into the cycle for another 2wks or longer w/the decanate ester(21days to clear)

[lirenguoke]

Just to make sure, you are saying I should do
1-4wk prop + enan
5-10wk enan
11-12wk prop

correct? When should I start pct if I follow this?

Should I use nandrolone or prop...

I do like what your saying... I chose var due to its very mild liver toxicity - as long as your taking NAC(N-acetyl-cistine) for liver supplementation you'd be gtg...

However, with adding another injectable you could always frontload w/prop(1-4) on top of your Ethanate dose... And it'll really kick fast... Then you could drop the Ethanate at wk 10 and add back in the prop(11-12) so your pct will start sooner and if diet is on point you'll gain more than you have in your last cycle!

I agree w/Bio in using NPP(nandrolone phenyl propionate) short ester nandrolone just in case something were to happen your not locked into the cycle for another 2wks or longer w/the decanate ester(21days to clear)

[NACH3]

Learn more about the other compounds b4 using them - learn how to build a cycle around you - eat to grow... eat clean whole foods(your diet and training dictate your gains) train your arse off and recover!

Start a thread(new)and list everything your going to take and how in mgs and include all ancilaries(AI HCG PCT)...

You should be more focused on your pct at the moment! You still need to recover and continue to eat and feed the new muscle tissue!

[lirenguoke]

cool! when should I start cutting?

Learn more about the other compounds b4 using them - learn how to build a cycle around you - eat to grow... eat clean whole foods(your diet and training dictate your gains) train your arse off and recover!

Start a thread(new)and list everything your going to take and how in mgs and include all ancilaries(AI HCG PCT)...

You should be more focused on your pct at the moment! You still need to recover and continue to eat and feed the new muscle tissue!

[NACH3]

cool! when should I start cutting?

Usually you get bloods 6-8 wks after pct to see where your at if you've recovered to the best of your ability... Sometime when you know your normal T levels are substantial then I'd say that's a good a time as ever...

Free at last also brought up a good option one we were talking about NPP - great compound one of my favs - but it can create more sides - but easily prevented by keeping your E2 in range(first line of defense) - if you choose the test e prop frontload just post it up in a new thread and we'll comment on it - or if you decide to do more research then post it w/ancilaries and stats including bf%

[lirenguoke]

Thanks a lot!

Usually you get bloods 6-8 wks after pct to see where your at if you've recovered to the best of your ability... Sometime when you know your normal T levels are substantial then I'd say that's a good a time as ever...

Free at last also brought up a good option one we were talking about NPP - great compound one of my favs - but it can create more sides - but easily prevented by keeping your E2 in range(first line of defense) - if you choose the test e prop frontload just post it up in a new thread and we'll comment on it - or if you decide to do more research then post it w/ancilaries and stats including bf%

[lirenguoke]

And yeah, I'm not starting a new cycle until next year (late winter/early spring). I'm thinking to do more research first and make it count.

Usually you get bloods 6-8 wks after pct to see where your at if you've recovered to the best of your ability... Sometime when you know your normal T levels are substantial then I'd say that's a good a time as ever...

Free at last also brought up a good option one we were talking about NPP - great compound one of my favs - but it can create more sides - but easily prevented by keeping your E2 in range(first line of defense) - if you choose the test e prop frontload just post it up in a new thread and we'll comment on it - or if you decide to do more research then post it w/ancilaries and stats including bf%