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[GSXRvi6]

10/21/2016 Friday: Injection pain is is fucking terrible yup don’t inject 2.5ccs of tren and 3ccs of test in each delt

Umm, here's your sign...

Yup definitely feeling the superdrol they are fucking strong sat in bed for four hours with headache and nausea.

This has to be some of the dumbest shit I have seen posted up here. I hope you don't have a heart attack / stroke / grow tits before you realize just how damn stupid this is.

All of the good information out there are still people that do this kind of shit. amazing.

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Do us a favor and post your blood pressure and labs as well so we can watch you wreck your organs while your at it.

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Umm, here's your sign...



This has to be some of the dumbest shit I have seen posted up here. I hope you don't have a heart attack / stroke / grow tits before you realize just how damn stupid this is.

All of the good information out there are still people that do this kind of shit. amazing.

Subscribed for entertainment.

Do us a favor and post your blood pressure and labs as well so we can watch you wreck your organs while your at it.

Yeah I will get bloodwork done at the halfway mark. If liver values are atrocious even after stopping the superdrol, I will most likely scratch the dbol.

[GSXRvi6]

Yeah I will get bloodwork done at the halfway mark. If liver values are atrocious even after stopping the superdrol, I will most likely scratch the dbol.

With your cycle you have to worry about more than your liver. Between the tren doing what tren does to kidneys (since you did your research you should know it's affects on BP, hairline, leukocytes, lipids, dopamine uptake, kidneys etc) your BP from the gear and all the water your going to take on your going to do some amazing amounts of stress to your heart and kidneys as well.

Playing with Prami is playing with fire, and I don't mean the "oh it can make you sick" anyone here that has ran prami for a good click knows what I'm talking about. Dopamine agonists are not skittles and I think people don't take them serious enough.

Your diet is also crap for this, your HDL's are going to tank so bad and then you look at the food your eating on top of that. I honestly don't think you've done a lot of research, my guess is you've read a few internet posts, a couple youtube videos and subscribe to Bostin's channel. If you actually did your research you wouldn't be doing this.

At 165lbs your scrawny, what you need is food, and if you can't grow on food and something as simple as 500mg of test then you don't know how to eat and train.

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With your cycle you have to worry about more than your liver. Between the tren doing what tren does to kidneys (since you did your research you should know it's affects on BP, hairline, leukocytes, lipids, dopamine uptake, kidneys etc) your BP from the gear and all the water your going to take on your going to do some amazing amounts of stress to your heart and kidneys as well.

Playing with Prami is playing with fire, and I don't mean the "oh it can make you sick" anyone here that has ran prami for a good click knows what I'm talking about. Dopamine agonists are not skittles and I think people don't take them serious enough.

Your diet is also crap for this, your HDL's are going to tank so bad and then you look at the food your eating on top of that. I honestly don't think you've done a lot of research, my guess is you've read a few internet posts, a couple youtube videos and subscribe to Bostin's channel. If you actually did your research you wouldn't be doing this.

At 165lbs your scrawny, what you need is food, and if you can't grow on food and something as simple as 500mg of test then you don't know how to eat and train.

Thanks man. I appreciate your advice and I agree with 99% of it. However, I am going to have to disagree with your thoughts on my cholesterol. During my time as an endurance athelete, I always had a similar diet with very high fats and carbs. I would usually intake about double the amount of whipping cream leading up to a meet. My blood work has always been terrific, cholesterol being no different. I do see your point about the kidneys. And for what reason am I going to be holding water? From my understanding, water retention can be managed and prevented while using anabolics?

Edit: Forgot to mention I have been taking niacin regularly for the past 4 years and have been monitored by a doctor (my father). But to be more clear, my goal is not to be healthy. I am experimenting and I believe that at my age I will live through it and regain my health post blast.

[GSXRvi6]

Thanks man. I appreciate your advice and I agree with 99% of it. However, I am going to have to disagree with your thoughts on my cholesterol. During my time as an endurance athelete, I always had a similar diet with very high fats and carbs. I would usually intake about double the amount of whipping cream leading up to a meet. My blood work has always been terrific, cholesterol being no different. I do see your point about the kidneys. And for what reason am I going to be holding water? From my understanding, water retention can be managed and prevented while using anabolics?

Edit: Forgot to mention I have been taking niacin regularly for the past 4 years and have been monitored by a doctor (my father). But to be more clear, my goal is not to be healthy. I am experimenting and I believe that at my age I will live through it and regain my health post blast.

Your planning on taking 2 grams of test and you have dbol in the mix later down the road as well, your going to be taking on water like a sinking ship. Water retention can be managed while using anabolics but with the cycle you have outlined I would argue it can't be prevented.

I'm not sure you can understand this, or many do understand this and there are those that would argue due to something they read on the internet but your body can only use so much test, how much depends on the individual. Myself for example, I need very little test, I achieve homeostasis on 100mg /wk and can "grow" on as little as 200mg/wk. My max is somewhere around 600mg/wk at 1 gram I was throwing away money and my sides skyrocketed. I'm one of the guys on here that hates test, add enough to get the job done and no more is my take on it. My buddy who is smaller than I am requires double that for homeostasis - genetics. Once you take "enough" test the knob is turned all the way to the "grow" setting, you can't keep twisting the knob. But if you keep slamming in test on top of that it doesn't just sit around waiting for it's turn to bind to a receptor, your body starts cranking out LOTS of metabolites because it has all this free test floating around. There are more metabolites than just estrogen and DHT, all of those metabolites at high doses can start causing side effects. So when you put in just enough test to get the job done, you grow with your side effects minimized and managed. When you throw in enough test to get the job done and then dump buckets more on top of that, you don't add any benefit but your sides will go through the roof. At your size, 2 grams is going to make a ton of estrogen (your taking a 19-nor which increases aromitase activity to boot) so your going to hold water - I don't care if you wait a few weeks and start taking dex your still going to hold water and have sides, this is assuming your gear is real of course.

Water is going to increase your blood pressure.

Superdrol, even on a proper cycle will raise your blood pressure, add that to my previous statement

Tren, even on a proper cycle, will raise your blood pressure, add that to my previous two statements.

So we can establish some quick facts right away, the first one is, regardless of what you do your going to take on some water, and your blood pressure is going to go up.

Now lets look at tren, Tren will cause your nephrons's to constrict, there is good and bad from this, but this adds stress to the kidneys, now add some water retention and increased blood pressure ON TOP of this and your guaranteed some level of kidney damage. Maybe not enough for you to care today, maybe not even enough to move you to stage 2 but you WILL impact your kidneys, but for me who is in stage 3a due to non AAS reasons I tend to take my kidney health very serious.

Then you have trens affect on dopamine, so I don't know if you actually read about it or if you just saw someone post something about "if your on tren you need prami to keep from getting milky tits" or something to that effect. With your doses and the amount of estrogen your going to crank out no doubt you could end up needing that prami, do you know how many D receptors prami binds to vs a DA like Caber? Do you know what each of those receptors are related to? I'm going to guess no, anyone who researches how prami actually works would be smart enough to toss that shit in a trash can, and if you do end up needing it, and you do end up tossing down prami daily for your cycle your going to get to experience the living hell of dopamine receptor burn out on top of all your other sides.

AAS in general is hard on your lipids, tren dreadfully so. It doesn't matter what your past diet was like and how your cholesterol ended up, if your pinning AAS it's a new ball game. If you do take your dex that also is not good for your lipids on to of the AAS and that diet. So is that diet horrible, I would say no, is that diet horrible for the drugs your taking, I'll say yes. Your missing LOTS of shit you should have in that diet.

I'm coming back off of serious injury and multiple surgeries and compared to you I'm an old man. I'm two years post op and I'm just now, just NOW getting back on the "serious" horse with my training and diet and I'm 6' with a lean body mass of 205lbs (tank tested) and I'm on 250mg/wk of sust.

I see all these videos out there of people doing INSANE dosages, I see people posting up here of their INSANE dosages and right away I think they must have fake shit or they are really dumb. Common ones are Anavar, everyone says "oh it's crap you need at least 100mg/day" or "you need to run at least a gram of primo" listen man their shit is fake or they are dumb or both. If you can't grow off 200mg of primo your doing it wrong or your shit is fake, simple as that.

Maybe your the rare genetic super freak and your body will tolerate this amount of gear just fine (highly unlikely), but there are safer ways to experiment and find out.

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Your planning on taking 2 grams of test and you have dbol in the mix later down the road as well, your going to be taking on water like a sinking ship. Water retention can be managed while using anabolics but with the cycle you have outlined I would argue it can't be prevented.

I'm not sure you can understand this, or many do understand this and there are those that would argue due to something they read on the internet but your body can only use so much test, how much depends on the individual. Myself for example, I need very little test, I achieve homeostasis on 100mg /wk and can "grow" on as little as 200mg/wk. My max is somewhere around 600mg/wk at 1 gram I was throwing away money and my sides skyrocketed. I'm one of the guys on here that hates test, add enough to get the job done and no more is my take on it. My buddy who is smaller than I am requires double that for homeostasis - genetics. Once you take "enough" test the knob is turned all the way to the "grow" setting, you can't keep twisting the knob. But if you keep slamming in test on top of that it doesn't just sit around waiting for it's turn to bind to a receptor, your body starts cranking out LOTS of metabolites because it has all this free test floating around. There are more metabolites than just estrogen and DHT, all of those metabolites at high doses can start causing side effects. So when you put in just enough test to get the job done, you grow with your side effects minimized and managed. When you throw in enough test to get the job done and then dump buckets more on top of that, you don't add any benefit but your sides will go through the roof. At your size, 2 grams is going to make a ton of estrogen (your taking a 19-nor which increases aromitase activity to boot) so your going to hold water - I don't care if you wait a few weeks and start taking dex your still going to hold water and have sides, this is assuming your gear is real of course.

Water is going to increase your blood pressure.

Superdrol, even on a proper cycle will raise your blood pressure, add that to my previous statement

Tren, even on a proper cycle, will raise your blood pressure, add that to my previous two statements.

So we can establish some quick facts right away, the first one is, regardless of what you do your going to take on some water, and your blood pressure is going to go up.

Now lets look at tren, Tren will cause your nephrons's to constrict, there is good and bad from this, but this adds stress to the kidneys, now add some water retention and increased blood pressure ON TOP of this and your guaranteed some level of kidney damage. Maybe not enough for you to care today, maybe not even enough to move you to stage 2 but you WILL impact your kidneys, but for me who is in stage 3a due to non AAS reasons I tend to take my kidney health very serious.

Then you have trens affect on dopamine, so I don't know if you actually read about it or if you just saw someone post something about "if your on tren you need prami to keep from getting milky tits" or something to that effect. With your doses and the amount of estrogen your going to crank out no doubt you could end up needing that prami, do you know how many D receptors prami binds to vs a DA like Caber? Do you know what each of those receptors are related to? I'm going to guess no, anyone who researches how prami actually works would be smart enough to toss that shit in a trash can, and if you do end up needing it, and you do end up tossing down prami daily for your cycle your going to get to experience the living hell of dopamine receptor burn out on top of all your other sides.

AAS in general is hard on your lipids, tren dreadfully so. It doesn't matter what your past diet was like and how your cholesterol ended up, if your pinning AAS it's a new ball game. If you do take your dex that also is not good for your lipids on to of the AAS and that diet. So is that diet horrible, I would say no, is that diet horrible for the drugs your taking, I'll say yes. Your missing LOTS of shit you should have in that diet.

I'm coming back off of serious injury and multiple surgeries and compared to you I'm an old man. I'm two years post op and I'm just now, just NOW getting back on the "serious" horse with my training and diet and I'm 6' with a lean body mass of 205lbs (tank tested) and I'm on 250mg/wk of sust.

I see all these videos out there of people doing INSANE dosages, I see people posting up here of their INSANE dosages and right away I think they must have fake shit or they are really dumb. Common ones are Anavar, everyone says "oh it's crap you need at least 100mg/day" or "you need to run at least a gram of primo" listen man their shit is fake or they are dumb or both. If you can't grow off 200mg of primo your doing it wrong or your shit is fake, simple as that.

Maybe your the rare genetic super freak and your body will tolerate this amount of gear just fine (highly unlikely), but there are safer ways to experiment and find out.

Really informative post. Thanks man.