Deca 250

[Ankhefenmut]

Not to step all over your post, but I've run deca in every cycle I've ever done and 8 weeks just isn't long enough with deca...

Takes 3-4 weeks to fully kick in, so at only 8 weeks you'd only be gettin the benefit of it for 4 weeks... A waste IMO since even at 8 weeks it's gonna shut down your HTPA real hard...

I would run a 12 week cycle like this

400mg Test Cyp/Ent weeks 1-12
300mg Deca weeks 1-11

This way because of the different esters in both drugs you'll be able to start your clomid 2 weeks after you're last shot of Test...

This should be plenty for your first cycle using these 2 drugs... I don't see any reason to take more, but you could add an oral either during the first 4 weeks or last 4 weeks depending on your goals...

Bulking I'd add 35mg of D-bol for the first 4 weeks...

Cutting I'd add 50mg of Winstrol for the last 4 weeks...

But you'll do fine with just the test and deca, but keep in mind it will take 2-3 weeks for the test to kick in and 3-4 for the deca to kick in, so be patient...

Nolva won't do a **** thing for deca gyno, but at 300mg you shouldn't have any problems...

You should have nolva or proviron on hand just incase you need it for the Test, as even 400mg can cause gyno if you very sensitive to excess Test converting to estrogen...

And don't forget post cycle recovery or you'll lost alot of what you gain...

Thanks alot for the information. Got my hands on some Test propionate. Thinking of doing the 400mgtest/250mgDeca per week cycle for 10 weeks.

What sort of post cycle recovery works best for this.

[Jack87]

I would go with 3 weeks of clomid post cycle...

Start it 3 weeks after your last shot of Deca...

And since you're going to use Test Prop which has a very short half life, I would run the Test Prop 2 weeks after you finish the Deca... So up to a week before starting your clomid...

You could even run it up to 3 days before starting your clomid with the short half life, but why bother for a few extra days...

Deca is real hard on shutting down your natural Test production, so I would run it 3 weeks like this...

I don't think 2 weeks is long enough for clomid following a cycle with Deca...

Day 1 300mg clomid (3 100mg doses taken during day 1)
Days 2-7 100mg clomid
Days 8-21 50mg clomid

I sometimes even run Tribestan for another 2-3 weeks after clomid, since Deca shuts me down real hard, but you may be fine with just clomid since you're only going to run 250mg...

QUOTE=Ankhefenmut]Thanks alot for the information. Got my hands on some Test propionate. Thinking of doing the 400mgtest/250mgDeca per week cycle for 10 weeks.

What sort of post cycle recovery works best for this.[/QUOTE]

[Ankhefenmut]

I would go with 3 weeks of clomid post cycle...

Start it 3 weeks after your last shot of Deca...

And since you're going to use Test Prop which has a very short half life, I would run the Test Prop 2 weeks after you finish the Deca... So up to a week before starting your clomid...

You could even run it up to 3 days before starting your clomid with the short half life, but why bother for a few extra days...

Deca is real hard on shutting down your natural Test production, so I would run it 3 weeks like this...

I don't think 2 weeks is long enough for clomid following a cycle with Deca...

Day 1 300mg clomid (3 100mg doses taken during day 1)
Days 2-7 100mg clomid
Days 8-21 50mg clomid

Thanks. What about Nolvadex. I read alot of guys use it to avoid Deca gyno. The most adverse side effects Im worried about is actually hair loss which is why I wanted to avoid test, seeing as I have a thinning hair line already. But I figure if Im gonna use AS then I may as well do it right and get the results Im after.

Was also looking at some Clenbutyrol after the cycle. Can I take this with Clomid?
I sometimes even run Tribestan for another 2-3 weeks after clomid, since Deca shuts me down real hard, but you may be fine with just clomid since you're only going to run 250mg...

QUOTE=Ankhefenmut]Thanks alot for the information. Got my hands on some Test propionate. Thinking of doing the 400mgtest/250mgDeca per week cycle for 10 weeks.

What sort of post cycle recovery works best for this.

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