Ending cycle momday

[Couchlock]

It really doesn't matter because mast is mast.

Just comes down to personal preference.

You should be fine with 50mg/d of var for that time period.

The dose of var used mostly comes down to quality.

You can get nice results on as little as 20-40mg/d of pharmacy grade var.

Using lower quality product you'll need to be in the 70-100mg/d range for similar effects.

Ok one more and I will have all info I need on building this,

I'm not doing both var and mast, ill add one or the other to the test.

Does your original recommendation of using var over test still stand?

Fwiw, on on anabolic labs. Com, my sources var is dosed exactly as stated 10mg per pill. And it tested for Oxandrolone only no winny or cheaper compound.

[numbere]

Ok one more and I will have all info I need on building this,

I'm not doing both var and mast, ill add one or the other to the test.

Does your original recommendation of using var over test still stand?

Fwiw, on on anabolic labs. Com, my sources var is dosed exactly as stated 10mg per pill. And it tested for Oxandrolone only no winny or cheaper compound.

Yes, for your second cycle I think you'd be better off with test+oral over test+another injectable.

That is a good sign that your source can make quality var.

However, that was only the results from one batch.

Unless you are buying pharmacy grade quality will differ from batch to batch.

[Couchlock]

Yes, for your second cycle I think you'd be better off with test+oral over test+another injectable.

That is a good sign that your source can make quality var.

However, that was only the results from one batch.

Unless you are buying pharmacy grade quality will differ from batch to batch.

Thanks

So here it is

1-12 test e 500mg (250 e3.5d)
3-12 anavar 50mg ed
1-14 at least .25mg dex eod, maybe .5mg
1-14 HCG 250iu e3.5d

Clomid and Nolva pct standard protocol

My source has tormifene and aromasin as well, any need for these?

I hear aromasin towards end replacing adex helps with possible rebound.

I hear tormifene is new type of nolva and better perhaps?

[numbere]

Thanks

So here it is

1-12 test e 500mg (250 e3.5d)
3-12 anavar 50mg ed
1-14 at least .25mg dex eod, maybe .5mg
1-14 HCG 250iu e3.5d

Clomid and Nolva pct standard protocol

My source has tormifene and aromasin as well, any need for these?

I hear aromasin towards end replacing adex helps with possible rebound.

I hear tormifene is new type of nolva and better perhaps?

Your not going to have any e2 rebound if you continue taking dex during the two week washout period between the end of cycle and PCT.

Torm can be used in place of clomid if you have unbearable side effects from clomid.

Torm is inferior to both nolva and clomid at resetting the HTPA.

[Couchlock]

Here's total result pics

In 2012 November, 260 lbs








After I dropped weight around end of 2013












Prior to cycle July 2016












Mid cycle at week 7




End of cycle prior to pct December 20th 2016









Doing 290 for 5 reps on smith



Pharmacom labs treated me well, gear is good to go. I liked it

Was at 135 prior to cycle, at 155 end of cycle. 1 rep max bench press went from 255lbs to 315lbs, 60 lb increase

Usually did 75 and 80 lb dumbbells for reps, 12 and 10 respectively, now I can get 75s 25 times, 80s 20 times, and been playing with 100 lb dumbbells for 8 reps easily

Again, all gear was from pharmacom labs, the test cyp pharmatest 250, and AI'S as well.

[Couchlock]

All products used

Pharmacom pharmatest c250 x3
Pharmacom Anastrozolos 1mg x 100
Oxandrolos 10mg x 100

[Obs]

Fucking outstanding Couchlockd! That took a lot of drive! I hope others are inspired! That is a total complete life transformation! NEWBIES NEED TO READ ABOVE AND UNDERSTAND IT WAS NOT THE GEAR, IT WAS THE MINDSET!

[Strongblood]

I'm impressed, Couchlockd! Hell of a transformation brother!

[numbere]

Looking good!

[Batmanreturns]

Based on the numbers you showed me yesterday with your T levels ..

What's the point of cruising on 100mg cyp vs HCG to natty levels?

[Couchlock]

Based on the numbers you showed me yesterday with your T levels ..

What's the point of cruising on 100mg cyp vs HCG to natty levels?

I don't know what your asking.

I am technically on trt, but I didn't use the test prescribed in that manner, i used it for the cycle.

I've never yet 'cruised' on trt doses.

I got bottle, abused it for cycle, after pct, if I check out to at least 300, I will just be fine with that.

I will not trt unless I'm under 200

I didn't know I was low, until I tested my blood in April. I had no symptoms or adverse health with 384 to 424 ng/dl

In fact my bloods were better than most people every thing was low in range, my ldl, hdl, rbc, only thing high normal was bun.

I) post a pic of pre cycle bloods

I did throw caution to the wind, I did not take mid cycle bloods, as I didn't feel like having to explain to my doctor why my vial of test 'broke one day" and I'm at 5000ng/dl.

What I mean is in not going to trt just cuzz I'm low enough to qualify, I won't trt untill I feel bad with low levels

[Couchlock]

Bloods from march












Bloods from July 2 months prior to cycle

[Couchlock]

Hey numbre, or any one.

I happen to have 400 tabs of this stuff here








Would this be good to take during my pct?

Its got 500mg tribbulus in it as well as a bunch of stuff that's sounds good

Damiana leaf 200mg
Gotu koja 60 mg
Oat straw extract 200mg
Muira puama bark 200mg
Saw palmetto 200mg
Ginko biloba 60 mg
Eleuthoro powder 200mg
Korean ginseng root powder 200mg
Guarana 100mg
Schisandra 200mg
Stinging nettles 400 mg
Tribbulus 500mg

?

[Couchlock]

Hey numbre, or any one.

I happen to have 400 tabs of this stuff here

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Would this be good to take during my pct?

Its got 500mg tribbulus in it as well as a bunch of stuff that's sounds good

Damiana leaf 200mg
Gotu koja 60 mg
Oat straw extract 200mg
Muira puama bark 200mg
Saw palmetto 200mg
Ginko biloba 60 mg
Eleuthoro powder 200mg
Korean ginseng root powder 200mg
Guarana 100mg
Schisandra 200mg
Stinging nettles 400 mg
Tribbulus 500mg

?

Anyone?

[numbere]

Would this be good to take during my pct?

Its got 500mg tribbulus in it as well as a bunch of stuff that's sounds good

Damiana leaf 200mg
Gotu koja 60 mg
Oat straw extract 200mg
Muira puama bark 200mg
Saw palmetto 200mg
Ginko biloba 60 mg
Eleuthoro powder 200mg
Korean ginseng root powder 200mg
Guarana 100mg
Schisandra 200mg
Stinging nettles 400 mg
Tribbulus 500mg

I don't see anything in there that would beneficial or harmful to HTPA reset.

Use it if you like or save it for a later period.

[Quester]

I was able to get GP to prescribe daily Cialis because my Dad has BPH. Insurance might give me trouble and change to Flosomax but my GP is a reliable member of "Team ME," so, I expect it will go through as other stuff has in the past.

[Couchlock]

I was able to get GP to prescribe daily Cialis because my Dad has BPH. Insurance might give me trouble and change to Flosomax but my GP is a reliable member of "Team ME," so, I expect it will go through as other stuff has in the past.

I was actually going to post a question 'best way to ask doc for cialis'

Is it good enough to say "my junk won't stay hard, and when it does its lime forced and only half way there"

He's not going to ask me to prove it will he?

[Couchlock]

From my experience with mast you need to stay on top of your blood counts because mast effects my HCT just as much as adrol.

Personally I like to run my mast higher but I think what you've proposed is a great place to start.

Stay away from the mixed esters, they're less expensive for a reason.

Run your dex the same way you did for your first cycle of 600mg/week of test.

Well i stumbled upon reading about primobolan

Primo or masterone?

Primo sounds good, but 100mg ed, its going to be as expensive as var

If I were to use primo, I'm reading 5mg of cialis is also necessary?

Anyone?

[Quester]

I was actually going to post a question 'best way to ask doc for cialis'

Is it good enough to say "my junk won't stay hard, and when it does its lime forced and only half way there"

He's not going to ask me to prove it will he?

Lol. No, he wont ask you to prove it. If you are going to take it just for sex. Tell the doc it's just for sex. He'll probably give you a higher dosage than if it was for BPH. Also, if its for BPH, you'll be expected to buy it every month. Just look him straight in the eye and tell him you want Cialis, no explanation needed unless he wants to discus briefly.

[Couchlock]

Ok guys, tomorrow is my first doses of Clomid 75, and nolva 40

I should take both full doses in morning correct?

I'm nervous, although I feel great without the serms so far, 18 days after last shot.

[numbere]

Ok guys, tomorrow is my first doses of Clomid 75, and nolva 40

I should take both full doses in morning correct?

I'm nervous, although I feel great without the serms so far, 18 days after last shot.

Take both full doses before you go to sleep or the night.

[Couchlock]

Take both full doses before you go to sleep or the night.

That scares me, I want to be able to feel it first in my waking hours so I know what the sides are. I get really really noid and nervous at night.

Although, I trust your advise I just don't want to wake up freaking out or nothing.

So I should do it at night?

There any heart or stroke risks associated with these serms? That's what worries me.

[numbere]

That scares me, I want to be able to feel it first in my waking hours so I know what the sides are. I get really really noid and nervous at night.

Although, I trust your advise I just don't want to wake up freaking out or nothing.

So I should do it at night?

There any heart or stroke risks associated with these serms? That's what worries me.

You can take SERMs any time you feel is best.

The risk of a healthy person forming a thrombosis from SERMs is very low.

[Couchlock]

You can take SERMs any time you feel is best.

The risk of a healthy person forming a thrombosis from SERMs is very low.

Is it deep vein thrombosis it can cause?

Or is there some other type of thrombosis I should be aware of?

[numbere]

Is it deep vein thrombosis it can cause?

Or is there some other type of thrombosis I should be aware of?

It's possible to develop a deep vein thrombosis or retinal vein occlusion but the risk is very low.

In studies where participants did experience horrible side effects they were taking these drugs for months or years.

You should look at some of the data to ease your mind.

[AR's King Silabolin]

Remember even if a cruise makes u feel better and its much more easy to keep your gains, your next glory days will not be so glorious as they could be. Meaning, your next blast will not be so efficient when u cruise. Unless you go crazy with the doses like Bostin. Iknow u dont wanna go that road.
And 60 days rest is not enough to boost the effiency of your next.

Do your pct. Consider 90 days pause. Plenty of time to summer. Why dont u dig into the world of peptides and mk677 or if u can afford it, hgh, while you wait. And use the harder days as motivation to find new ways to eat better and train more efficient.

I never dig deep when i juice. Everything is so easy and my bis are swollen and grow when i jerk off.
But when off i dont have any choice but to digg deep and find new smarter paths...without cheating with my ARs.

[Couchlock]

Remember even if a cruise makes u feel better and its much more easy to keep your gains, your next glory days will not be so glorious as they could be. Meaning, your next blast will not be so efficient when u cruise. Unless you go crazy with the doses like Bostin. Iknow u dont wanna go that road.
And 60 days rest is not enough to boost the effiency of your next.

Do your pct. Consider 90 days pause. Plenty of time to summer. Why dont u dig into the world of peptides and mk677 or if u can afford it, hgh, while you wait. And use the harder days as motivation to find new ways to eat better and train more efficient.

I never dig deep when i juice. Everything is so easy and my bis are swollen and grow when i jerk off.
But when off i dont have any choice but to digg deep and find new smarter paths...without cheating with my ARs.

What's up sil. I'm not reckless, I'm not cruising

[AR's King Silabolin]

I'm thinking though, I was lightly considering cruising into the next cycle at 100mg to 200mg per week of cyp.

I'm leaning towards pct like I planed but can't help thinking about cruising for 60 days into next cycle?

i know,just wanna tent to those sentences

[Couchlock]

I'm thinking though, I was lightly considering cruising into the next cycle at 100mg to 200mg per week of cyp.

I'm leaning towards pct like I planed but can't help thinking about cruising for 60 days into next cycle?

i know,just wanna tent to those sentences

I know I thought about it too, being as I just got 2 bottle of test e 500, and 2 bottles of test base 100, and 2 bottles of mast e 200. I'm like telling myself every hour "just pct, just pct"

Fwiw, took my first pct dose of 75clomid, 40 nolva. Took it 5 hours ago, feel fine, no different.

[Obs]

I know I thought about it too, being as I just got 2 bottle of test e 500, and 2 bottles of test base 100, and 2 bottles of mast e 200. I'm like telling myself every hour "just pct, just pct"

Fwiw, took my first pct dose of 75clomid, 40 nolva. Took it 5 hours ago, feel fine, no different.

Its a struggle couch... in two weeks you will have lost a lot of intensity during workouts. That is damn hard to let happen. I know how hard you workout and when you see yourself move backwards it makes a man go crazy! Stay strong buddy. I jumped on again way too soon.

[Couchlock]

Its a struggle couch... in two weeks you will have lost a lot of intensity during workouts. That is damn hard to let happen. I know how hard you workout and when you see yourself move backwards it makes a man go crazy! Stay strong buddy. I jumped on again way too soon.

I thought, or figured, at 18 days after pin, my test is already low as hell? The serms can only start to raise it, correct?

I ....I dunno. I don't like the sound of loosing intensity

[Obs]

I thought, or figured, at 18 days after pin, my test is already low as hell? The serms can only start to raise it, correct?

I ....I dunno. I don't like the sound of loosing intensity

Yes, but if you are like me you will still lose intensity. The first thing I notice a week into serms is loss of reps. I recover from a set with ten reps normally and do 8 on the next. On serms I do ten then recover and do six. Your body is more advanced than mine in the training department so maybe it will be different for you. Good luck and stay strong.

[Couchlock]

Yes, but if you are like me you will still lose intensity. The first thing I notice a week into serms is loss of reps. I recover from a set with ten reps normally and do 8 on the next. On serms I do ten then recover and do six. Your body is more advanced than mine in the training department so maybe it will be different for you. Good luck and stay strong.

You know you're the second person on this site he told me that being advanced in training I wish I saw that when I looked in the mirror

I suffered terribly from body dysmorphia all I see is a fat fuck when I look in the mirror

[Obs]

You know you're the second person on this site he told me that being advanced in training I wish I saw that when I looked in the mirror

I suffered terribly from body dysmorphia all I see is a fat fuck when I look in the mirror

Everyone else sees it. You lifted more years than I and probably bench more. You are strong as fuck and lean. I look in the mirror and see someone who should have never stopped 8 years ago. You totally morphed your body. All I have done is put on 35 lbs of muscle. You are not a fat fuck at all. You need to get a fat head made of yourself from an old pic. 250-135 up to 155-160 lean is bad ass.

[Couchlock]

Everyone else sees it. You lifted more years than I and probably bench more. You are strong as fuck and lean. I look in the mirror and see someone who should have never stopped 8 years ago. You totally morphed your body. All I have done is put on 35 lbs of muscle. You are not a fat fuck at all. You need to get a fat head made of yourself from an old pic. 250-135 up to 155-160 lean is bad ass.

Its a mental condition people tend to develop when heavy now skinny.

Like I take a photo, I see it, but standing in the mirror looking at me through my eyes its different, almost hallucinogenic in a way.

Photo is different, it feels like im,looking at a person not myself.

Its a very weird condition, dysmorphia, it slowly crept up in my head, I think its the drive that keeps me going honestly. I almost don't see results, so i continue to try harder.

Its a trip. Debilitating at times, mentally consumes you.

People have offed themselves over a dysmorphia condition.

[Obs]

Its a mental condition people tend to develop when heavy now skinny.

Like I take a photo, I see it, but standing in the mirror looking at me through my eyes its different, almost hallucinogenic in a way.

Photo is different, it feels like im,looking at a person not myself.

Its a very weird condition, dysmorphia, it slowly crept up in my head, I think its the drive that keeps me going honestly. I almost don't see results, so i continue to try harder.

Its a trip. Debilitating at times, mentally consumes you.

People have offed themselves over a dysmorphia condition.

Well, don't be doing that. I have heard shit that wasn't there but never saw anything that wasn't there. That would mess with someone bad. Trust me though you aint fat! Lol

[Couchlock]

Well, don't be doing that. I have heard shit that wasn't there but never saw anything that wasn't there. That would mess with someone bad. Trust me though you aint fat! Lol

Oh, thanks I know. I don't plan on ever hurting my self, honestly I enjoy life too much, plus bullets look like they hurt a lot.

[numbere]

I thought, or figured, at 18 days after pin, my test is already low as hell? The serms can only start to raise it, correct?

I ....I dunno. I don't like the sound of loosing intensity

Your mind sets the workout intensity not your hormone levels.

Just because you're on PCT doesn't mean the gains are over.

If you continue eating correctly and working out intensely for under 45 minutes then you can add new tissue straight through PCT.

[Obs]

I thought, or figured, at 18 days after pin, my test is already low as hell? The serms can only start to raise it, correct?

I ....I dunno. I don't like the sound of loosing intensity

Your horomones will set your mind sometimes. I have never seen anyone come off cycle and climb. Strength and weight always fall some. Part of the game.

[numbere]

Your horomones will set your mind sometimes. I have never seen anyone come off cycle and climb. Strength and weight always fall some. Part of the game.

Maybe that's how your game plays out but not mine.