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    Quote Originally Posted by jborch View Post
    but yeah any experience would be appreciated guys, I will provide what i look like if requested.. I just generally want to get this right. My Hormonal profile is pretty bad for a start due to (Opioid induced androgen deficiency) which basically means I've already ruined my endo system.
    Have you talked to a doctor about this...I wonder if suboxone can cause this deficiency...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsoc View Post
    Have you talked to a doctor about this...I wonder if suboxone can cause this deficiency...
    Suboxone doesn't cause clinical low T in studies usually.
    However, just talking to guys on suboxone, it's pretty clear it affects T to some degree. It's hard to pinpoint how much, as the signs of low libido and difficulty achieving erection can also be caused by the opiate action itself.
    However, I believe that most people on subuxone maintainance would perhaps benefit of increasing T.

    With methadone and harder opiates the picture is more clear however,
    and even osteoporosis has been reported, a clear sign of clinical low levels of sex hormones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocToxin8 View Post
    Suboxone doesn't cause clinical low T in studies usually.
    However, just talking to guys on suboxone, it's pretty clear it affects T to some degree. It's hard to pinpoint how much, as the signs of low libido and difficulty achieving erection can also be caused by the opiate action itself.
    However, I believe that most people on subuxone maintainance would perhaps benefit of increasing T.

    With methadone and harder opiates the picture is more clear however,
    and even osteoporosis has been reported, a clear sign of clinical low levels of sex hormones.
    I just WONDER since it's a synthetic opiode .or it mimics it to bind to receptors..
    I wonder because they have me in that shit till I'm done with this court class..then I will ween off of it..no problems with erections or sex drive..as it's through the roof always. Then again maybe I'm just a freak. I'm going to ask a doctor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsoc View Post
    I just WONDER since it's a synthetic opiode .or it mimics it to bind to receptors..
    I wonder because they have me in that shit till I'm done with this court class..then I will ween off of it..no problems with erections or sex drive..as it's through the roof always. Then again maybe I'm just a freak. I'm going to ask a doctor
    If that's the case I don't think you have an issue. But always good to measure.
    It also depends on dose ofcourse.
    Over here they usually prescribe very high doses of that stuff, while I think 24mg pr day is considered maximum, some people get even more than that.

    But I did talk to an endocrinologist who said subs usually weren't that bad for the HPTA. Ill see if I can dig up some studies on this.

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubme...20testosterone

    Here there was no difference between the treated group and the control,
    both had about 5,0ng/ml T. (The methadone group scored very low)
    But the dose was simply listed as 8-20mg, with 11mg being the average.

    The study was also very small (17)

    But among some other abstracts I saw it seemed my initial statement was wrong. Maybe it's not that supressive after all. (Or not at all in most)

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