Is HCG a must for 1st cycle?

[Good2Joe]

I am about to start my 1st cycle. I was looking forward to only the 2 shots of test a week not 4 with hcg. What are your opinions, pros and cons? Who has done a test cycle without and how did it go?

[redz]

Hcg is shot sub q with an insulin pin and is painless and quick.

[Good2Joe]

Hcg is shot sub q with an insulin pin and is painless and quick.

What are your thoughts on taking or not taking it with a Test E cycle?

[Capebuffalo]

Yes it is.

[numbere]

What are your thoughts on taking or not taking it with a Test E cycle?

Taking into consideration everything we've learned about cycling in the last 60 years you'd have to be either naive or stupid not to use hcg from day one until 2-3 days before PCT.

[Good2Joe]

Taking into consideration everything we've learned about cycling in the last 60 years you'd have to be either naive or stupid not to use hcg from day one until 2-3 days before PCT.

Ok fair enough. I'll just wait until I can afford it as well. I have the Test E, arimidex, and Pct but can't afford the hcg yet. I'll wait. Thank you

[numbere]

Ok fair enough. I'll just wait until I can afford it as well. I have the Test E, arimidex, and Pct but can't afford the hcg yet. I'll wait. Thank you

5000IU of hcg should never be more than $25-30 delivered.

[Good2Joe]

5000IU of hcg should never be more than $25-30 delivered.

Oh ok. I don't know what I was looking at but it was way more. I can do that thanks. Is 5000ui enough or do I need 10000ui?

[redz]

^ good luck with that price here in Canada it's roughly triple that.

[Good2Joe]

^ good luck with that price here in Canada it's roughly triple that.

Yeah its higher here too....I'll look around

[numbere]

Oh ok. I don't know what I was looking at but it was way more. I can do that thanks. Is 5000ui enough or do I need 10000ui?

I don't know it depends on the length of your cycle.

If you take 250IU twice a week then multiply 500 times the amount of time you'll be on plus the washout period before starting PCT.

[evanescent]

Get 2 vials of 5000iu and run a 15 week cycle, reconstitute your second batch at the 8.5 week mark to cover the full 17 weeks (factoring in the 2 week break prior to commencing PCT)

[PT1982]

Not a must, but I wouldn't do it without it. Better to have than not. Plus you can add it to the 2 shots you plan and put it all in at once. But for sub q, I just use a 31gaX1/2 and don't feel a thing. I'm taking 5 shots a day

[DocToxin8]

It's pretty dumb to not use it.

Yeah, I did use AAS before hcg was common sense to use,
and yeah, you can recover anyway. But with hcg recovery won't just be more probable, but also less "painful".

Too much time on AAS without stuff like hcg is the most likely culprit for me having virtually no chance of bringing both testicles back to normal shape.
Even though I use hcg now.

Let's just say it's much better to avoid injury to those parts in the first place than to try to fix an injury after the fact.
And testicular atrophy due to AAS use is what I'd call a direct injury to the balls.

It's like you were to sit in a wheelchair and not get up (ever) for two years,
and then expect to be able to recover from that.
Yes you probably can, but it won't happen by tomorrow, and you'll never win a marathon.

[Marsoc]

Hcg is shot sub q with an insulin pin and is painless and quick.

Can't I just load my dose into the same syringe I will use for my test injection ?

[Obs]

Can't I just load my dose into the same syringe I will use for my test injection ?

No, shoot it seperately with a slin pin under the skin (sub q) on your arm or belly. I do my arm. I shoot the arm because I dont like needles in my belly and the fat there always stands a better chance for edima.

[Obs]

I am about to start my 1st cycle. I was looking forward to only the 2 shots of test a week not 4 with hcg. What are your opinions, pros and cons? Who has done a test cycle without and how did it go?

Back in the day a lot less people used it. I have ran cycles without it. It is dumb not to use it. You will protect your testicles from shinkage. Things have advanced and we all know now hcg is the way to go when taking anything suppressive.

Better results is why you are on aas, so get the best results you can with hcg. If you half ass it you might as well stay natural... IMHO

[songdog]

Wat are you going to due for food if you can't afford HCG? You do know you can't eat junk and expect too grow.

[Mr.BB]

Can't I just load my dose into the same syringe I will use for my test injection ?

You cant really dose it correctly on a regular syringe, and its a pain to draw together with oil.

Subq is totally painless and easy.

[Good2Joe]

You cant really dose it correctly on a regular syringe, and its a pain to draw together with oil.

Subq is totally painless and easy.

Anyone have any websites they bought from? I googled "buy hcg" and I get crap...

[rt4man]

I inject mine with my test just fine...

[Good2Joe]

Do you get yours online? (Where lol?)

[rt4man]

This is not a source board and its against the rules to ask out in the open like that...besides IDK whats going on with my source..their website just disappeared They were so good too. :'(

You just have to look around and read reviews, and a lot of the actual manufacturers have a place on their website to put in a URL and it will tell you if they are a trusted supplier or not.