Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
Caffeine also restricts the blood vessels which we want as much blood in that muscle as possible... everything is ok in moderation but I've noticed when all caffiened up my veins don't pop like they should - citruline and arginine are vasodilators which open up the blood vessels - much more optimal

Btw - coffee black is ok!(in moderation) lol
Coffee is like non alcoholic beer, tastes good but doesn't do much besides giving you a sour stomach.

Gonna get me some arginine right now actually... get as in drop down 5grams.
Found 500grams l-arg and 500g of arg AKG lying in a hidden place.
It has expired but still good.
Not gonna buy ArgAKG no more as there ain't a single study backing it I've found, and even one that states it actually hinders progress.
(I'm skeptical it's much different from straight Arg, but why use it?)