Super Cycle

[Ready4]

I wanna go for Tren Acetate with deca and Propionate
1: What about anadrol instead deca? first thought deca better cus u can take it triple time longer
2: What Cycle support should i take with it
3: Whats the best injectable bulking steroid (dont care about looks just strength and size) to take with Tren

Age 23
Height 1.80
Weight 87kilo
Body fat % 15
Years of training experience 10 years

[AR's King Silabolin]

I wanna go for Tren Acetate with deca and Propionate
1: What about anadrol instead deca? first thought deca better cus u can take it triple time longer
2: What Cycle support should i take with it
3: Whats the best injectable bulking steroid (dont care about looks just strength and size) to take with Tren

Go for deca. U dont need kickstart when doing tren a. And u dont have to worry about liver during this cycle then.

I would buy Garlic, fishoil, red yeast rice, turmeric, NAC, ester-c. Suggested doses. NAC 1200 mg

U already got it. Tren a is the best for bulk.

Also remember a nazi healthy diett, the salt/potassium ratio, plenty of water and enough cardio.

And ofcourse u need the AI, caber for the 19nors and hcg. And a 6 week pct.

Controversial but i would strongly consider a ppar for heartbeat for a cycle like this. It could also help on your breathing even on tren.

[songdog]

At 23 yrs old I suggest you read the young and steroids thread and worry more about a good diet than doing damage too your body with aas.

[NACH3]

Go for deca. U dont need kickstart when doing tren a. And u dont have to worry about liver during this cycle then.

I would buy Garlic, fishoil, red yeast rice, turmeric, NAC, ester-c. Suggested doses. NAC 1200 mg

U already got it. Tren a is the best for bulk.

Also remember a nazi healthy diett, the salt/potassium ratio, plenty of water and enough cardio.

And ofcourse u need the AI, caber for the 19nors and hcg. And a 6 week pct.

Controversial but i would strongly consider a ppar for heartbeat for a cycle like this. It could also help on your breathing even on tren.

Sil even running oils can have an effect on liver - always run liver support!

[NACH3]

I wanna go for Tren Acetate with deca and Propionate
1: What about anadrol instead deca? first thought deca better cus u can take it triple time longer
2: What Cycle support should i take with it
3: Whats the best injectable bulking steroid (dont care about looks just strength and size) to take with Tren

How many cycles have you ran already??

[AR's King Silabolin]

Sil even running oils can have an effect on liver - always run liver support!

Now you are picking. Test and 19nors are in our world a liverfriendly cycle.

I never said he should avoid liversupport.

Actually i suggested 1200 mg NAC at my herbadvice section.

[NACH3]

Now you are picking. Test and 19nors are in our world a liverfriendly cycle.

I never said he should avoid liversupport.

Actually i suggested 1200 mg NAC at my herbadvice section.

Keep the thread on track

[AR's King Silabolin]

Keep the thread on track

yeah so get off my back

[NACH3]

yeah so get off my back

You have a complex and think everyone is out to get you -

Pm me if you have something to say

Keep thread on topic

[AR's King Silabolin]

You have a complex and think everyone is out to get you - remember you ain't all that

Pm me if you have something to say

Keep thread on topic

but what is this?...nothing of your argue on my answer did make sense. U cant expect me to look another way then. But ok. Nothing against u. Ur ok...back to topic!

[NACH3]

How many cycles have you ran already??

Bump...

[NACH3]

Now you are picking. Test and 19nors are in our world a liverfriendly cycle.

I never said he should avoid liversupport.

Actually i suggested 1200 mg NAC at my herbadvice section.

Yes you did say NAC etc - that's my mistake Sil

[Ready4]

2 already done

[numbere]

What are your stats?

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat %
Years of training experience

[NACH3]

2 already done

Tren should still be outta the question... period! You don't need it yet - deca/or NPP(short ester Nandrolone with less sides) would be a good starting point... if you weren't so young imo - get BW done to see where your at!

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

[Marcus G]

This cycle looks awful

[Ready4]

What are your stats?

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat %
Years of training experience

I wrote above

[MuscleScience]

Tren should still be outta the question... period! You don't need it yet - deca/or NPP(short ester Nandrolone with less sides) would be a good starting point... if you weren't so young imo - get BW done to see where your at!

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

I tend to agree, I think if you run Deca that should be more than enough. NPP is an awesome compound. Running two 19Nors with each other will actually diminish each compounds overall effect because they are competitively competing for the same receptors plus with Test.

[PT1982]

Sil even running oils can have an effect on liver - always run liver support!

Surely he knows that, lol. Tren especially can be very hazardous.

For the OP. This is a very advanced cycle and not one to "because I want to try" this or that. While a nandrolone coupled with tren isn't uncommon, it's one you need to know the effects of each one on their own. Tren is notorious for its side effects. Deca can also show a lot of side effects as well. Running the 2 simultaneously will wreck your lipids, so make sure you supplement wisely. If you haven't ran either of the 19nors, then choose one. Preferably the nandrolone.

[PT1982]

I tend to agree, I think if you run Deca that should be more than enough. NPP is an awesome compound. Running two 19Nors with each other will actually diminish each compounds overall effect because they are competitively competing for the same receptors plus with Test.

Nailed it! Everything you said is spot on. There would be no reason to even run test any higher than a trt dose because of that reason. I do believe there is diminishing returns with androgenic compounds no doubt. And that NPP...... The steroid of steroids! Lol. I'm partial to it, as its my all time favorite.

[Obs]

Nailed it! Everything you said is spot on. There would be no reason to even run test any higher than a trt dose because of that reason. I do believe there is diminishing returns with androgenic compounds no doubt. And that NPP...... The steroid of steroids! Lol. I'm partial to it, as its my all time favorite.

I have a bunch on the way. I am excited! Never tried it before only deca.

[PT1982]

I have a bunch on the way. I am excited! Never tried it before only deca.

It'll ruin you! It would be the one for me if I were only allowed to use one

[Obs]

It'll ruin you! It would be the one for me if I were only allowed to use one

Thats how I felt about deca.

[Ready4]

I tend to agree, I think if you run Deca that should be more than enough. NPP is an awesome compound. Running two 19Nors with each other will actually diminish each compounds overall effect because they are competitively competing for the same receptors plus with Test.

Ok,
What do u suggest taking with Tren for max bulking?
And random question is it possible to take anadrol with tren & stop after 4 weeks then replace it with other injectable steroid for the rest of the cycle?

[ghettoboyd]

Ok,
What do u suggest taking with Tren for max bulking?
And random question is it possible to take anadrol with tren & stop after 4 weeks then replace it with other injectable steroid for the rest of the cycle?

if you are taking test p alongside the tren already then you can run and stop the anadrol when you want to...im confused a bit buy your basic questions having run 2 cycles already... why do you feel like you need to add more?...good luck if you decide to do this, my opinion is you should still keep your cycles simple having only done 2 and being young...my 2 cents...

[Ready4]

if you are taking test p alongside the tren already then you can run and stop the anadrol when you want to...im confused a bit buy your basic questions having run 2 cycles already... why do you feel like you need to add more?...good luck if you decide to do this, my opinion is you should still keep your cycles simple having only done 2 and being young...my 2 cents...

After 4 weeks with anadrol the toxicity get to high and too much side effects (isn't it?) so i thought ill take 4 weeks then replace it with somethin else as the third compound, if ill go tren with anadrol ill do it next cycle, for now im checking the strongest cycle.

[ghettoboyd]

that's dependent on your dose you plan to take and how you react to it individually...do you have any experience with it....can you post a pic of yourself and lay out your other cycles so we can see where you are at?...it will help us help you further...

[NACH3]

Ok,
What do u suggest taking with Tren for max bulking?
And random question is it possible to take anadrol with tren & stop after 4 weeks then replace it with other injectable steroid for the rest of the cycle?

You don't need Tren!

My 3rd cycle and one of my best gains came from prop/NPP backloaded with winny(went from 160 to 193 at 10% bf).... winny hardened me up but the NPP also leaned me out and winny makes me strong as fuk... keep it simple man

[Mr. Small]

Dude is only 23

[NACH3]

Dude is only 23

That's why in my post way above I linked 'the young and steroids' and suggested no cycle - doesn't seem like he's listening tho :/

[MuscleScience]

Ok,
What do u suggest taking with Tren for max bulking?
And random question is it possible to take anadrol with tren & stop after 4 weeks then replace it with other injectable steroid for the rest of the cycle?

I like Deca for Bulking and Tren for cutting or lean bulk. Mainly because you can use smaller amounts for cutting and Tren seems to raise my metabolism.

[PT1982]

Ok,
What do u suggest taking with Tren for max bulking?
And random question is it possible to take anadrol with tren & stop after 4 weeks then replace it with other injectable steroid for the rest of the cycle?

I wouldn't take tren to bulk. While some can and do, it's really best designed to cut. On paper it looks promising, but there is a reason bodybuilders use it all the way through competitions. It can make eating very difficult, especially this time of year. I can't eat above TDEE on the stuff. This is my honest opinion and not a safety precaution....if you wanted mass, stick to test or test/nandrolone. Or up the test a little and use only test. That's my professional advice and what I would personally do.

[PT1982]

You don't need Tren!

My 3rd cycle and one of my best gains came from prop/NPP backloaded with winny(went from 160 to 193 at 10% bf).... winny hardened me up but the NPP also leaned me out and winny makes me strong as fuk... keep it simple man

I'm the exact same way. I like using a little winstrol during a bulk because for me, it rivals halo in terms of strength gains.

[MuscleScience]

I wouldn't take tren to bulk. While some can and do, it's really best designed to cut. On paper it looks promising, but there is a reason bodybuilders use it all the way through competitions. It can make eating very difficult, especially this time of year. I can't eat above TDEE on the stuff. This is my honest opinion and not a safety precaution....if you wanted mass, stick to test or test/nandrolone. Or up the test a little and use only test. That's my professional advice and what I would personally do.

Good point about appetite suppression.

[Ready4]

I wouldn't take tren to bulk. While some can and do, it's really best designed to cut. On paper it looks promising, but there is a reason bodybuilders use it all the way through competitions. It can make eating very difficult, especially this time of year. I can't eat above TDEE on the stuff. This is my honest opinion and not a safety precaution....if you wanted mass, stick to test or test/nandrolone. Or up the test a little and use only test. That's my professional advice and what I would personally do.

You don't need Tren!

My 3rd cycle and one of my best gains came from prop/NPP backloaded with winny(went from 160 to 193 at 10% bf).... winny hardened me up but the NPP also leaned me out and winny makes me strong as fuk... keep it simple man

If i want to make the cycle with only prop and npp what the dosing should be if ill take 100mg each 2 days?
And - what should be the cycle support for it

[Mr. Small]

If i want to make the cycle with only prop and npp what the dosing should be if ill take 100mg each 2 days?
And - what should be the cycle support for it

Better off leaving out the Tren and NPP because you are only 23.

Shouldn't be doing any gear really until you are 25, but if you do, keep it to Test only

[NACH3]

If i want to make the cycle with only prop and npp what the dosing should be if ill take 100mg each 2 days?
And - what should be the cycle support for it

With these questions you need to read and educate yourself first and foremost

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

At the very least read this! It's got all your questions answered no ones going to spoon feed you!