cowboy,
im not exaggerating or anything on how much i've gained...maybe it's because i didn't want to waste my money and so i worked hard or somehting(but im sure that goes for any juice)..... but ya u should always take clomid or some PCT afterwards to be safe
i just did EOD of 1 cc of winnie and it worked good for me... i just did 20 shots..about 5-5 1/2 weeks
honestly... i'm not trying to impress u or anything cuz i know its not the typical results...im just telling u how it worked for me