Whats the best for fat burning

[songdog]

Well at 19 you shouldn't be thinking of aas at all just building a solid foundation.

[qikgq]

I hardly lose any weight, neither gain muscle, so thats why im thinking about it.

[MuscleScience]

Honestly, cardio and diet. And it had to be consistent. I start my cutting diet 16 weeks before a show. At 6 weeks it has to be perfect. One cookie can mean the difference of having legs cut to your groin or lower abs or not.

[michael30]

Op to be honest I'm very skeptical about giving you advice. Because its obvious you are very inexperienced. I don't mean that in a rude way. I just don't want to see you hurt yourself. One of the drugs you mentioned is by far much better at burning fat. There is no comparison. But its also the one that can KILL you the easiest. In your post you stated you have dropped barely any weight. Please understand that if you are not dropping weight something is wrong. You should be able to drop 1-2lbs a week fairly easily with just a few diet changes and not even working out. So if your struggling while lifting weights, doing cardio, and "dieting" then that means your doing something wrong. So my advice is to go do a ton of research on diet and training. Watch YouTube videos( but of people like Dr Serrano, Dr Layne Norton) then start implementing the things you've learned. As you become more experienced then you can start looking into the drugs. I will tell you right now if you use aas you will mess yourself up. The last thing you want to do is start taking drugs then when problems arise, trying to educate yourself after the fact to fix them. Learn the basics first. Then the advanced stuff. If you still don't know where to start after a month of solid research. Then pick someone on the forum or at your gym who you think is knowledgeable and might help. See if they will give you pointers or help from time to time. But please don't start ass backwards and dive straight into drug use to reach your goals. Because the sad fact will be, you will end up right back where you started once you come off the drugs. Because you didn't learn good habits, and the basics in the beginning. I hope you listen to what I'm saying so you won't be back her in 3-6 months posting a thread about how your all messed up!

[PT1982]

Op to be honest I'm very skeptical about giving you advice. Because its obvious you are very inexperienced. I don't mean that in a rude way. I just don't want to see you hurt yourself. One of the drugs you mentioned is by far much better at burning fat. There is no comparison. But its also the one that can KILL you the easiest. In your post you stated you have dropped barely any weight. Please understand that if you are not dropping weight something is wrong. You should be able to drop 1-2lbs a week fairly easily with just a few diet changes and not even working out. So if your struggling while lifting weights, doing cardio, and "dieting" then that means your doing something wrong. So my advice is to go do a ton of research on diet and training. Watch YouTube videos( but of people like Dr Serrano, Dr Layne Norton) then start implementing the things you've learned. As you become more experienced then you can start looking into the drugs. I will tell you right now if you use aas you will mess yourself up. The last thing you want to do is start taking drugs then when problems arise, trying to educate yourself after the fact to fix them. Learn the basics first. Then the advanced stuff. If you still don't know where to start after a month of solid research. Then pick someone on the forum or at your gym who you think is knowledgeable and might help. See if they will give you pointers or help from time to time. But please don't start ass backwards and dive straight into drug use to reach your goals. Because the sad fact will be, you will end up right back where you started once you come off the drugs. Because you didn't learn good habits, and the basics in the beginning. I hope you listen to what I'm saying so you won't be back her in 3-6 months posting a thread about how your all messed up!

I liked this post and agree with most all of it. But DNP isn't the best in my experience. Possibly the best on his list, but I'm to the point now that I believe anyone using dnp is a fool, or at least foolish. Maybe you've had good experiences with it, but it is nothing more than hell for me, and I think the only reason people thinks it works so well is because your body is fighting a literal poison to stay alive! Lol. Maybe a slight exaggeration, but maybe not. Anything that raises your biddy temp to over 101 degrees 24/7 is in my opinion extremely dangerous. Sure, you're going yo lose weight. Maybe even a pound or 2 a day in sweat. But you feel bad, you stink regardless of how many showers you take, stain the clothes and blankets you use, and you look like garbage while on it. Most people look fat from bloat. I certainly did. And when all was said and done, there was not enough fat burned to ever register or notice. It truly is poison and had no medicinal use at all. I think at one time it was used as an insecticide and as a chemical used to develop photos. I've done if twice, to my shame. If anyone wants to go down a similar path, but get measurable results as use something much safer, T3 is a great option. I love it, and I feel great taking it. You'll sweat a lot, but it won't be a neon green or electric yellow. And it wind turn your whites into yellows. I know many people still use dnp and many love it, but how far do we need to go in order to lose a percent or 2 of body fat? Really? The reward just isn't worth the risk. High body temps for long periods of time isn't good for anything in the body, ESPECIALLY the brain. And the "therapeutic" dose is so close to the "lethal" dose that you really have to trust your supplier or your scales. The last thing I want is an ice water enema in the ER. And it might be several of them. However long it takes to get your core temp down. No thanks. Been there, unfortunately done that. Never again!

[qikgq]

Op to be honest I'm very skeptical about giving you advice. Because its obvious you are very inexperienced. I don't mean that in a rude way. I just don't want to see you hurt yourself. One of the drugs you mentioned is by far much better at burning fat. There is no comparison. But its also the one that can KILL you the easiest. In your post you stated you have dropped barely any weight. Please understand that if you are not dropping weight something is wrong. You should be able to drop 1-2lbs a week fairly easily with just a few diet changes and not even working out. So if your struggling while lifting weights, doing cardio, and "dieting" then that means your doing something wrong. So my advice is to go do a ton of research on diet and training. Watch YouTube videos( but of people like Dr Serrano, Dr Layne Norton) then start implementing the things you've learned. As you become more experienced then you can start looking into the drugs. I will tell you right now if you use aas you will mess yourself up. The last thing you want to do is start taking drugs then when problems arise, trying to educate yourself after the fact to fix them. Learn the basics first. Then the advanced stuff. If you still don't know where to start after a month of solid research. Then pick someone on the forum or at your gym who you think is knowledgeable and might help. See if they will give you pointers or help from time to time. But please don't start ass backwards and dive straight into drug use to reach your goals. Because the sad fact will be, you will end up right back where you started once you come off the drugs. Because you didn't learn good habits, and the basics in the beginning. I hope you listen to what I'm saying so you won't be back her in 3-6 months posting a thread about how your all messed up!

I'm 175 Cm, and I was 93Kg, I really tried, what I could. I drinked 2x protein shake, some legal fat burners which is easy to get in the shops here, I cheated with my diet a little bit, like every 2-3 weeks, but other than that, I ate a max of 20g fat at all, calculating the egg with that, and 200g carb, and a lot of chicken, around 1 kg, I fried it without any oil/fat, sometimes with rice, but mostly without it. After that, i switched to drink a fruit mix in the morning, next time I could eat was 3pm, ate salad with chicken, in these days the only fat I ate was the yoghurt for the sauce. Still nothing, so I lost my most of my motivation. Then I picked up 7kg under 3 months, however, whenever I'm getting close to 100kg, I'm not that hungry, so I hop back to 97kg. At the moment I've ordered ephedrine, that seemed the best, and the safest (from my list). I assume the best and riskiest is the DNP, which you've mentioned. I don't want to do anything else, than this, and looking to do 2x 3 week cycles, if my supplement will be enough for that.

Edit: That's just my diet try, of course I was working out before this.

[sumpm1]

Steroids can be used for fat loss. To be clear, steroids themselves will not aid in burning fat. But since you will be at a calorie deficit, you are at risk for burning muscle. So you can use gear to prevent the loss of muscle during a cut.

[michael30]

I'm 175 Cm, and I was 93Kg, I really tried, what I could. I drinked 2x protein shake, some legal fat burners which is easy to get in the shops here, I cheated with my diet a little bit, like every 2-3 weeks, but other than that, I ate a max of 20g fat at all, calculating the egg with that, and 200g carb, and a lot of chicken, around 1 kg, I fried it without any oil/fat, sometimes with rice, but mostly without it. After that, i switched to drink a fruit mix in the morning, next time I could eat was 3pm, ate salad with chicken, in these days the only fat I ate was the yoghurt for the sauce. Still nothing, so I lost my most of my motivation. Then I picked up 7kg under 3 months, however, whenever I'm getting close to 100kg, I'm not that hungry, so I hop back to 97kg. At the moment I've ordered ephedrine, that seemed the best, and the safest (from my list). I assume the best and riskiest is the DNP, which you've mentioned. I don't want to do anything else, than this, and looking to do 2x 3 week cycles, if my supplement will be enough for that.

Edit: That's just my diet try, of course I was working out before this.

Bud trust me I feel for you, more then you know. I use to be 324lbs at my heaviest, and im not talking muscle. That's why I wrote you such a long response. After reading your response I can tell you right off the bat where your issue is. Its strictly your diet. The reason I say that is you should be able to drop weight without working out or cardio(its not as easy, but 1-2lbs aweek should be able to be done) I wish I could tell you an excate answer. But I can't without actually knowing exactly how much you eat. So what you need to do for 2 weeks is track your calories and macros(protein, fat, carbs) then you will know if you are way under eating and starving yourself. Or if your actually eating to much! Your 220lbs at about 5'9 so you definitely have some weight you can drop. May I ask have you dieted a lot off and on? If I had to guess I would say you are over eating( but again its very hard to tell without seeing everything you eat) unfortunately someone your size and body fat level doest require that many calories(especially if not active and metabolism has been damaged by yo-yo dieting) also a few things that stand out to me in your post that might be where your struggling is. The yogurt( what kind is it, how many calories, fat and carbs? You said you use a "fruit mix" do you use fruit you cut up yourself or a mix from a store, again how many calories, fat and carbs. The last thing was your protein shakes, what all is in them, do you add things like peanut butter,milk, fruit? Just these 3 things I mentioned could easily add up to 1500 calories if there not the right or processed. Also you stated you ate 2.2 pounds of chicken? What kind of chicken? Even chicken breasts would be around 1000-1400 calories(depending on brand and type) so just off of what you stated the chicken and protein shakes( even if just protein) your at around 1250-1650(very rough estimate) calories for the day. If your chicken is processed and not lean then your way over eating. Now just to be clear the numbers I quoted are all general guess's based off of what little info I have. But to me its indicating your overeating. Which I could be wrong. So my advice is track your food for a minimum of 2 weeks, and also research any and all diet and nutritional info you can find. Then go from there. Leave the drugs for later.

[Jphunter]

I'm 175 Cm, and I was 93Kg, I really tried, what I could. I drinked 2x protein shake, some legal fat burners which is easy to get in the shops here, I cheated with my diet a little bit, like every 2-3 weeks, but other than that, I ate a max of 20g fat at all, calculating the egg with that, and 200g carb, and a lot of chicken, around 1 kg, I fried it without any oil/fat, sometimes with rice, but mostly without it. After that, i switched to drink a fruit mix in the morning, next time I could eat was 3pm, ate salad with chicken, in these days the only fat I ate was the yoghurt for the sauce. Still nothing, so I lost my most of my motivation. Then I picked up 7kg under 3 months, however, whenever I'm getting close to 100kg, I'm not that hungry, so I hop back to 97kg. At the moment I've ordered ephedrine, that seemed the best, and the safest (from my list). I assume the best and riskiest is the DNP, which you've mentioned. I don't want to do anything else, than this, and looking to do 2x 3 week cycles, if my supplement will be enough for that.

Edit: That's just my diet try, of course I was working out before this.

Diet is way out of wack . Best thing you could do is spend as much time as possible in the diet and exercise portion of the forum . Nutrition is number 1 when it comes to bulking or cutting .

[songdog]

I hardly lose any weight, neither gain muscle, so thats why im thinking about it.

That's beacuse you don't know how to eat! Hit our diet section and post your diet they will help.Do it right our face Ed no libido depression this is wat can happen if you cycle too young.

[MToption2]

I hardly lose any weight, neither gain muscle, so thats why im thinking about it.

No....no no no no...So many things wrong with this post.

[Jphunter]

I hardly lose any weight, neither gain muscle, so thats why im thinking about it.

More often then not when the answer is such as yours is it's because you need help in the kitchen brother . Diet will solve just about anything when it comes to bulking or cutting . Learn about proper diet and you will have a leg up on everybody .