Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
The thinking is, much like you take novadex to block extra estrogen from binding to the estrogen receptor. When you take a compound with a higher binding affinity than test it effectively blocks it from binding to the androgen receptor. So if you're running a ton of test with a ton of Deca or Tren. You are wasting a good portion of the Tests effects and increasing the chances of sides. Because test is never going to out compete those two compounds unless you run those in low levels and run test very high. So what would be the point of that?

In essence, when you run Deca and Test together in the same amounts. Your gains are coming from the Deca and your sides are coming from the test because all it's doing is floating around getting converted by aromatase because it's not binding to anything else.
We're all different - I like this conversation although our bodies are made for testosterone inmo(without it we would be much less androgenic period with more feminine features) but that's another conversation, too, however during competition cycling I can see using 500mgs test wkly and it not effecting the AR completely - if your trying to grow into your prep I think a decent dose of test is needed but if recomping I can also see MS' point of view - I know plenty of people who've ran low test high deca/or teen or both.... I've always ran a decent amount of test with all my cycles and if I'm doing a SBC(short burst cycling) and repriming than hitting another after I've used high test and high ace at 6wks(leaving it open ended until my window has stopped or slowed significantly) but say 1g test 6-700 ace for a short period I got awesome results

Now if your trying to cut out water especially towards the end of a long prep I can see dropping test to 300 then none in the last wk(s) two max(may be a tad long I'm not sure playing around with things myself) but I do want to try a lower test higher compound with a backload of winny or drol to lean out and fill out...

MS - I know your a big believer in the 19nors binding to the AR over anything and I agree with tren more so but when you bulk do you bring your test up??