Live for the moment - A teenage Zeus' bodybuilding journey

[hollowedzeus]

I know they have had some remarkable results with clomid therapy and many other restart programs but from my memory which from reading your post above about your past bloods its correct its not going to do anything except give false readings and probably waste around 6 months. I do hope I am wrong but ive been involved in many guys going down the private route and also the NHS for trt and fully understand how they think especially with the younger guys. I hope your endo is of the new breed and not the older ones

Some of your bloods look rather confusing you seem to swing rather a lot.

Well done on the 15lbs of muscle, that is some fuking tissue my friend and looking at your bf your doing well that's why I asked which part of the low T is effecting you. I will add a small note here I truly believe the HIT had a major part in this area and also your mind set.

That's very sad to read zeus that you have zero desire in women, you should be hunting every single day at your age and should be the driving force within you. I am not sure if the anxiety issue is directly related to low T but I would think its more mind set and the thinking of having T is causing this rather than a symptom if you understand.

I know its probably not what you want to hear but I would carry on now your going down this route and play ball with your endo until you come to a brick wall then pursue other measures or better endo's who will help you.

Nebido is fuking serious, some think its a light switch therapy but its not its a very slow build up and eventually its unbelievable in everyway. Ive been on trt for around 13yrs+ and nebido around 10 yrs.

I highly doubt your father being on steroids while having you as anything to do with your condition or conditions, as of yet we wait to see what exactly is wrong and I guess that's why the endo is trying everything before going down the route of full on trt for a young guy like yourself but what you say to him will move things faster along when you have your next apt

I shall post all my bloods below. I dont know why i didnt just do that rather than trying to explain them hah!

I doubt it was 15lbs of muscle but yes the training is incredible. I often find it difficult to get the mindset however. One of your posts detailing a single set of shoulder presses really resonated with me. I often think of that if im giving up in a set. I didnt eat THAT many calories. I was on around 3500 for the 12 week bulk so i was extremely pleased with the progress i made.

I completely understand that its very possible i cause my own symptoms unintentionally. Its hard to tell what is real and what isnt.

I agree i should be out chasing. At the moment i have a good looking girl at work throwing herself at me. Makes me sad really. Shes a couple of years older too

Savage seems to know his stuff. He explained the process of testosterone and bow things should work during my consultstion. I trust that he knows what he is doing.
He is very much of the modern approach, even telling me he has men on nebido and hcg, sometimes with an ai if needed (was nice to hear).

I can play the game, always have. The end is in sight but im unsure of how far i have left to go. It would very easy to jump the gun and rush things but its better to be done correctly.
I guarantee you though... no form of treatment is going to make me better until i recieve nebido lol.

I dont want to come across as trying to tell him how to do his job when i email him but i dont want to be pushed over either. I will need to find the sweet spot and hit the nail on the head or else waste more of my (and his) time. He did also ask me if i used anaboloc steroids so i am very aware that by having the preference of testosterone that i may come across as looking for legal steroids. (Probably more so of i opted for sustanon)

I shall post all my bloodwork below. It will be an eye sore but just incase you wanted to see it.

First result lools skewed. Free t is consistently low on all 3 however. Shbg is weird on the first one.

[Myers]

I shall post all my bloods below. I dont know why i didnt just do that rather than trying to explain them hah!

I doubt it was 15lbs of muscle but yes the training is incredible. I often find it difficult to get the mindset however. One of your posts detailing a single set of shoulder presses really resonated with me. I often think of that if im giving up in a set. I didnt eat THAT many calories. I was on around 3500 for the 12 week bulk so i was extremely pleased with the progress i made.

I completely understand that its very possible i cause my own symptoms unintentionally. Its hard to tell what is real and what isnt.

I agree i should be out chasing. At the moment i have a good looking girl at work throwing herself at me. Makes me sad really. Shes a couple of years older too

Savage seems to know his stuff. He explained the process of testosterone and bow things should work during my consultstion. I trust that he knows what he is doing.
He is very much of the modern approach, even telling me he has men on nebido and hcg, sometimes with an ai if needed (was nice to hear).

I can play the game, always have. The end is in sight but im unsure of how far i have left to go. It would very easy to jump the gun and rush things but its better to be done correctly.
I guarantee you though... no form of treatment is going to make me better until i recieve nebido lol.

I dont want to come across as trying to tell him how to do his job when i email him but i dont want to be pushed over either. I will need to find the sweet spot and hit the nail on the head or else waste more of my (and his) time. He did also ask me if i used anaboloc steroids so i am very aware that by having the preference of testosterone that i may come across as looking for legal steroids. (Probably more so of i opted for sustanon)

I shall post all my bloodwork below. It will be an eye sore but just incase you wanted to see it.

First result lools skewed. Free t is consistently low on all 3 however. Shbg is weird on the first one.

Mindset is the problem, was for me at least, knowing that I have low T at this age gave me hard anxiety.

Im gonna tell ya the truth , it's gonna be a struggle to get out of the low T mindset , even when u get the nebido.

You really need to hunt some girls , i know i didn't , and the worst part is when u actually want to since nebido works , at least in my case , i felt like i was starting from lvl 1

my communication skills were on a level of my dog, i'd suggest you go out and hunt as much as u can , approach and at least talk , when u get the need for sex from TRT , it's gonna be easier to get some

Gotta break the low T mindset , it takes a while , im still doing it , nebido helps but a lot of it is in ur head.