Live for the moment - A teenage Zeus' bodybuilding journey

[hollowedzeus]

There is a certain point where our nervous system can function normally after adrenergic stimulation, it depends how the receptors are configured and how solid the balancing factors (GABA, dopamine) are. After that limit is reached it's not worth it imo, the receptors will burn out (downregulate) eventually.

Permenent burnout do you think? Im taking the big mans advice and stopping anyway.

Ecy didnt exactly hsve an overwhelming sense of wellbeing. Yohimbinen really affected it for thr worse i believe for me.

Ive been thinking about the down regulation of receptors.... why dont people run 2 weeks on 2 off for ephedrine. Would male sense. Thsts what i was going to do

[hollowedzeus]

Back and biceps this evening after work.

Going to copy a session from the dungeon. Will be the first time trying deadlifts that dont touch the floor.

But first. A long day at work

[Gallowmere]

Permenent burnout do you think? Im taking the big mans advice and stopping anyway.

Ecy didnt exactly hsve an overwhelming sense of wellbeing. Yohimbinen really affected it for thr worse i believe for me.

Ive been thinking about the down regulation of receptors.... why dont people run 2 weeks on 2 off for ephedrine. Would male sense. Thsts what i was going to do

Ephedrine doesn't need to be cycled, unless you are specifically chasing side effects. It's thermogenic effect actually appears to increase with prolonged use, even though the appetite suppression, jitters, etc. will have long since faded. Even Lyle McDonald can't give anything more than "hell if I know why" when it comes to how this works.

When people start seeing reduced results from EC, it's actually the caffeine that needs to either be cycled off, or dosage increased.

[hollowedzeus]

Ephedrine doesn't need to be cycled, unless you are specifically chasing side effects. It's thermogenic effect actually appears to increase with prolonged use, even though the appetite suppression, jitters, etc. will have long since faded. Even Lyle McDonald can't give anything more than "hell if I know why" when it comes to how this works.

When people start seeing reduced results from EC, it's actually the caffeine that needs to either be cycled off, or dosage increased.

I was on day 4 or 5 there of ecy. The stim effect od outgoingness and confidence was gone and anxiety and cold sweats had increased. I guess i dont respond all that great to it.

Stims usually lower my blood pressure also but this stack increases it to 115/75ish

Strange one. Guess we all respond differently

[Gallowmere]

What you were experiencing sounds more like Yohimbine sides than anything to do with Ephedrine specifically. Try just dropping the Y next time and see what happens. Given how low your BP hovers anyway, I would just stick with plain EC at 20-25/200, and not bother with Aspirin either.

[hollowedzeus]

Very possibly. I read before not to mix the two together so ive never done that before now. Ill experiment further in the future.

Going ahead with no stims atm. Fueling my workouts with willpower

[Gallowmere]

Very possibly. I read before not to mix the two together so ive never done that before now. Ill experiment further in the future.

Going ahead with no stims atm. Fueling my workouts with willpower

I've combined them to great effect before, but my body seems to respond very well to stimulants of all kinds. The rational person in me knows it's not true, but the experimental insanity in me says "dude...meth would probably make you a god".

Fortunately I am still more rational than experimental in some areas.

[hammerheart]

Permenent burnout do you think? Im taking the big mans advice and stopping anyway.

Ecy didnt exactly hsve an overwhelming sense of wellbeing. Yohimbinen really affected it for thr worse i believe for me.

Ive been thinking about the down regulation of receptors.... why dont people run 2 weeks on 2 off for ephedrine. Would male sense. Thsts what i was going to do

There is no real need imo to put your body and mind through that at your stage, stims when intended for fat loss are best implemented when your bf% is already low and you want to trim away a couple digits further, you shouldn't need them at 15-20%.

When you use them for an occasional boost in energy is fine. Heck today I'm getting the shakes too, hasn't occurred in a good while, maybe I've overdosed T3 or I need to up AI.

[hollowedzeus]

There is no real need imo to put your body and mind through that at your stage, stims when intended for fat loss are best implemented when your bf% is already low and you want to trim away a couple digits further, you shouldn't need them at 15-20%.

When you use them for an occasional boost in energy is fine. Heck today I'm getting the shakes too, hasn't occurred in a good while, maybe I've overdosed T3 or I need to up AI.

Yeah ive realised that lol. Its too easy to take the easy road though lol.
Im not cutting down too far. Ill probably stop at 79kg before going onto my zyzz bulk.

Really wasnt any need for it but it was effective. Im down a kilo i think.

You still at 0.025 for your ai e2d? Too much caffeine maybe

[hammerheart]

Yeah ive realised that lol. Its too easy to take the easy road though lol.
Im not cutting down too far. Ill probably stop at 79kg before going onto my zyzz bulk.

Really wasnt any need for it but it was effective. Im down a kilo i think.

You still at 0.025 for your ai e2d? Too much caffeine maybe

Nay caffeine alone never gives me any shakiness, I can defo tell it's an E2 surge from the puffy chest and foggy brain, and that it has occurred exactly 24h after last pin, btw as I have upped Test only recently it is to be expected E2 to max after a few weeks as the enanthate release will build up during this time. I was doing 0.05 EOD and I'll take it to ED, and see how I do. I'll see if I can pull blood next month.

Must also say mood since yday has been brightest since months and energy levels are recovering, libido is coming back too.

Nebido will hopefully spare you from all the BS above with AI and exoteric dosages/protocols so duh listen to M when he says it works wonders. I plan to jump back to TU in a few months too, can't stand the instability of TE anymore.

[hollowedzeus]

Nay caffeine alone never gives me any shakiness, I can defo tell it's an E2 surge from the puffy chest and foggy brain, and that it has occurred exactly 24h after last pin, btw as I have upped Test only recently it is to be expected E2 to max after a few weeks as the enanthate release will build up during this time. I was doing 0.05 EOD and I'll take it to ED, and see how I do. I'll see if I can pull blood next month.

Must also say mood since yday has been brightest since months and energy levels are recovering, libido is coming back too.

Nebido will hopefully spare you from all the BS above with AI and exoteric dosages/protocols so duh listen to M when he says it works wonders. I plan to jump back to TU in a few months too, can't stand the instability of TE anymore.

Thats not too good man. Take care of yourself. Bw would be ideal.

Do you put down the increased wellbeing to test?

Yes i can barely wait. Only another year probably LOL. I would very much enjoy to see how you get on with your protocol on TU. I dont knoe why the pinning frequency isnt more often. Even once every 5 weeks is better than 10 imo. I doubt ill be allowed to self inject

[hammerheart]

Why? Everything is going as expected. I'll get bw as always but you know labs for E2 are purely indicative being non-sensitive. I've come a long way experimenting with dosages and compounds so I trust my sense more than bw, I'm enough in touch with myself to know if something needs to be adjusted.

Of course Test is what a man needs to function as such no other compound will ever come close.

Nebido might require a good deal of time to dial in fully but I won't speak of a year six months does for most and you might start to feel better much before that, who knows.

I was only recommended to get injections done by a doc, but could have easily done it myself... not that I recommend it btw, while I believe the 10-14 interval on nebido was tailored to suit commercial needs more than anything yet the studies and personal experiences do prove it works well for mosts, but imo 5-6 weeks would have been more reasonable yes. See what the standard protocol does for you before even thinking of fixing it you know if ain't broken...

[hollowedzeus]

Why? Everything is going as expected. I'll get bw as always but you know labs for E2 are purely indicative being non-sensitive. I've come a long way experimenting with dosages and compounds so I trust my sense more than bw, I'm enough in touch with myself to know if something needs to be adjusted.

Of course Test is what a man needs to function as such no other compound will ever come close.

Nebido might require a good deal of time to dial in fully but I won't speak of a year six months does for most and you might start to feel better much before that, who knows.

I was only recommended to get injections done by a doc, but could have easily done it myself... not that I recommend it btw, while I believe the 10-14 interval on nebido was tailored to suit commercial needs more than anything yet the studies and personal experiences do prove it works well for mosts, but imo 5-6 weeks would have been more reasonable yes. See what the standard protocol does for you before even thinking of fixing it you know if ain't broken...

Im certain it cant be fun swinging from low to high e2 as you figure out your dosage lol.

Yeah ive read it takes a while, im sure tbe placebo will also be nice the day after injection hah.

Ive been told it has to be nurse/doc to do so. Ive never pinned myself but id rather they just showed me and i proved i could do it, rather than having to book an appointment with someone who couldnt care less if i feel like my arse has got a lump in it.
I recall marcus saying he pinnes 2ml in each bicep. Bet the docs wouldnt allow that.

Ive never read anyone gettinf on with thw longest term. Numbers seem to fall very low at the 14th week.
We will see how it goes.

I most likely have hcg to look forward to next....

[hollowedzeus]

Absolutely exhausted yesterday and today. I got 8 hours sleep and im struggling to stay awake. I even ate extra carbs last night and packed in cardio after 15 minutes.

[hollowedzeus]

Also made a discovery that cialis the night before wearing tracksuit bottoms are a no go.

Think ahead

[marcus300]

Im certain it cant be fun swinging from low to high e2 as you figure out your dosage lol.

Yeah ive read it takes a while, im sure tbe placebo will also be nice the day after injection hah.

Ive been told it has to be nurse/doc to do so. Ive never pinned myself but id rather they just showed me and i proved i could do it, rather than having to book an appointment with someone who couldnt care less if i feel like my arse has got a lump in it.
I recall marcus saying he pinnes 2ml in each bicep. Bet the docs wouldnt allow that.

Ive never read anyone gettinf on with thw longest term. Numbers seem to fall very low at the 14th week.
We will see how it goes.

I most likely have hcg to look forward to next....

Nebido takes along time to fully dial in and do its job but straight away with the first 2 injection you will feel normal or most do but it can take a long time for blood work to be dialled in. My friend who's just gone private had his 6 months labs done and he isn't fully right yet even though he feels fine his bloods aren't up there yet, takes time for it to build up properly.

Take me for an example I've been put on every 13 weeks now, my T levels are in the low 20's at 12 weeks so you can see it can take a long time for it to keep your levels even like mine, mine never drop below 20 even after 16 weeks without any! strange buy true the stuff is remarkable.

Yes, I pin myself and I have pinned my biceps I have injected in two different areas which isn't recommend so stick with one area and ive also shot the full 4ml into my bicep head which was lovely side delts glutes are the normal for me but the nurse will show you and if your ok do it yourself no issues at all its easy pinning yourself but you must let nebido do its job to many just think they going to be fully at running speed at the 6 week internal and your not it takes time and is the best. I am now lengthening my injection intervals because my T is out of control even at wk12-16 but remember ive been on it for over 10 yrs nebido

[marcus300]

Also made a discovery that cialis the night before wearing tracksuit bottoms are a no go.

Think ahead

5mgs of C a day is great and as a host of health benefits

[hollowedzeus]

Nebido takes along time to fully dial in and do its job but straight away with the first 2 injection you will feel normal or most do but it can take a long time for blood work to be dialled in. My friend who's just gone private had his 6 months labs done and he isn't fully right yet even though he feels fine his bloods aren't up there yet, takes time for it to build up properly.

Take me for an example I've been put on every 13 weeks now, my T levels are in the low 20's at 12 weeks so you can see it can take a long time for it to keep your levels even like mine, mine never drop below 20 even after 16 weeks without any! strange buy true the stuff is remarkable.

Yes, I pin myself and I have pinned my biceps I have injected in two different areas which isn't recommend so stick with one area and ive also shot the full 4ml into my bicep head which was lovely side delts glutes are the normal for me but the nurse will show you and if your ok do it yourself no issues at all its easy pinning yourself but you must let nebido do its job to many just think they going to be fully at running speed at the 6 week internal and your not it takes time and is the best. I am now lengthening my injection intervals because my T is out of control even at wk12-16 but remember ive been on it for over 10 yrs nebido

That is reassuring to hear that it has an effect so fast thanks. My first concern is how i feel then secondary to that is bloodwork. Probably should be the other way around but its not at the moment.

You sound like a great responder to it. Ive been doing a lot of reading up on nebido the past few months and have been dissapointed looking at some peoples experiences where they dip to 12ish nmol/l at around the 12 week mark. I guess everyone is different and perhaps they havent found the correct protocol yet.

By out of control do you mean its sitting too high and causing discomfort? In an ideal world thats where i would like mine to be sitting at 14 weeks. The less testosterone we need to pin to get a high test response the more convienient and healther (i think) it is.

Doubt i could pin my bicep. The 4ml oil is probably the size of my bicep anyway, would be like a massive synthol injection hah.

Yeah ive seen that lots are a fan of cialis on the board. I get some pleasure out of taking it as things function as i feel they should. I have no idea how many mgs im taking. Im still on that rc shit i told told you about a while ago. Might aswell finish the bottle.

[hammerheart]

Im certain it cant be fun swinging from low to high e2 as you figure out your dosage lol.

Yeah ive read it takes a while, im sure tbe placebo will also be nice the day after injection hah.

Ive been told it has to be nurse/doc to do so. Ive never pinned myself but id rather they just showed me and i proved i could do it, rather than having to book an appointment with someone who couldnt care less if i feel like my arse has got a lump in it.
I recall marcus saying he pinnes 2ml in each bicep. Bet the docs wouldnt allow that.

Ive never read anyone gettinf on with thw longest term. Numbers seem to fall very low at the 14th week.
We will see how it goes.

I most likely have hcg to look forward to next....

I recall I could feel it two hrs straight past injection though it was only a lousy sort of feeling, that made me hate Test until I managed to get things gearing properly.

I pin biceps too but I'd never go with 4ml into one head lol

It's very important you get a booster at six weeks mark after first injection, that will aid a lot into stabilizing you faster.


BTW after upping AI that tad I awoke pumped and all this morning, chest being much less gynoid looking from lesser water retention, so duh, I'm getting there. Strength it's an hit and miss but libido is constantly improving.

A brief surge in estrogen it's nothing, it might go unnoticed or even give you an energy boost, the effects of E2 on the CNS are very complex but it's with chronic, inappropriate estrogen exposure the deleterious actions on a man's body and brain get noticeable. I do notice it's CV effects rather quickly though, I'd get horrible exertion tachycardia, high BP (you might recall my 160/100 readings back in April lol), flat muscles, no vascularity and extra weak feeling especially in hands...a total NO killer.

[marcus300]

That is reassuring to hear that it has an effect so fast thanks. My first concern is how i feel then secondary to that is bloodwork. Probably should be the other way around but its not at the moment.

You sound like a great responder to it. Ive been doing a lot of reading up on nebido the past few months and have been dissapointed looking at some peoples experiences where they dip to 12ish nmol/l at around the 12 week mark. I guess everyone is different and perhaps they havent found the correct protocol yet.

By out of control do you mean its sitting too high and causing discomfort? In an ideal world thats where i would like mine to be sitting at 14 weeks. The less testosterone we need to pin to get a high test response the more convienient and healther (i think) it is.

Doubt i could pin my bicep. The 4ml oil is probably the size of my bicep anyway, would be like a massive synthol injection hah.

Yeah ive seen that lots are a fan of cialis on the board. I get some pleasure out of taking it as things function as i feel they should. I have no idea how many mgs im taking. Im still on that rc shit i told told you about a while ago. Might aswell finish the bottle.

Usually the guy who feels a huge dip at week 12 hasn't been on that long and I mean months not weeks here because this therapy really starts kicking in 6-12 months and many want faster results in blood work but they do feel better with the booster shot and the 3rd injection. Many times its in their heads because they come to week 12 and think they are low T the thing is to get bw done and see because the mind can play tricks on you.

I did feel a dip and week 10 when I was on a 12 week protocol, my endo changed it go on wk11, then I started to have blood work done because of some other reasons and they said we will drop the T bw and see how things are and they not low. I was still in the high 20's at week 11 and I was still in the 20's at week 16 because they told me to hold off until I came down. But my mind was telling me something when in reality I had normal T levels even at 16 weeks.

My endo said its because over time nebdio is great because things start to level out and build up and the lows don't really come that fast anymore. I don't know were your looking for research but you need to check out the 12 yrs 6 yrs and 4 yrs studies of nebido against test T and you will see nebido is far better. CVheck out my nebido thread in the hrt section.

Also, I don't use an ai on nebido I don't need to my levels are fine and within range. Many guys increase drop the weeks further and further and then the E levels rise. I know a few guys on nebido and I know we are all not the same but it is a wonder drug imho but our minds can play tricks on us just like it did with me. I felt like hell and when I was tested I was in my low 20's and was fine really but it does take time for build up.

When you inject it you do feel it imho and ive not cycled for 3.5 yrs and nebido kept me at my size and building, my test was high as fuk on nebido but ive been on it over 10 yrs but its always been great. Sex drive and all the other issues related to low T went within the first months. I cant complain in any way but its worth trying if you get offered it because I feel its no1 in trt and my endo feel the same way.

[hollowedzeus]

I recall I could feel it two hrs straight past injection though it was only a lousy sort of feeling, that made me hate Test until I managed to get things gearing properly.

I pin biceps too but I'd never go with 4ml into one head lol

It's very important you get a booster at six weeks mark after first injection, that will aid a lot into stabilizing you faster.


BTW after upping AI that tad I awoke pumped and all this morning, chest being much less gynoid looking from lesser water retention, so duh, I'm getting there. Strength it's an hit and miss but libido is constantly improving.

A brief surge in estrogen it's nothing, it might go unnoticed or even give you an energy boost, the effects of E2 on the CNS are very complex but it's with chronic, inappropriate estrogen exposure the deleterious actions on a man's body and brain get noticeable. I do notice it's CV effects rather quickly though, I'd get horrible exertion tachycardia, high BP (you might recall my 160/100 readings back in April lol), flat muscles, no vascularity and extra weak feeling especially in hands...a total NO killer.

Ive read people misisng the booster and feeling like shit. Its seems like some doctors cant even read bayers website.
Glad to hear youre doing well mate. Put the libido to good use. Hit the clubs and bars and snare some spicy itialian meatball.

Irregular heartbeat freaks me the f out. Be careful with that. I wouldnt be mixing any stims when that sensation comes around. Yes i remember. That easnt good.

You seem to be heading in the correct direction. Claw and chew your way to 100%. Keep on going

[hollowedzeus]

Usually the guy who feels a huge dip at week 12 hasn't been on that long and I mean months not weeks here because this therapy really starts kicking in 6-12 months and many want faster results in blood work but they do feel better with the booster shot and the 3rd injection. Many times its in their heads because they come to week 12 and think they are low T the thing is to get bw done and see because the mind can play tricks on you.

I did feel a dip and week 10 when I was on a 12 week protocol, my endo changed it go on wk11, then I started to have blood work done because of some other reasons and they said we will drop the T bw and see how things are and they not low. I was still in the high 20's at week 11 and I was still in the 20's at week 16 because they told me to hold off until I came down. But my mind was telling me something when in reality I had normal T levels even at 16 weeks.

My endo said its because over time nebdio is great because things start to level out and build up and the lows don't really come that fast anymore. I don't know were your looking for research but you need to check out the 12 yrs 6 yrs and 4 yrs studies of nebido against test T and you will see nebido is far better. CVheck out my nebido thread in the hrt section.

Also, I don't use an ai on nebido I don't need to my levels are fine and within range. Many guys increase drop the weeks further and further and then the E levels rise. I know a few guys on nebido and I know we are all not the same but it is a wonder drug imho but our minds can play tricks on us just like it did with me. I felt like hell and when I was tested I was in my low 20's and was fine really but it does take time for build up.

When you inject it you do feel it imho and ive not cycled for 3.5 yrs and nebido kept me at my size and building, my test was high as fuk on nebido but ive been on it over 10 yrs but its always been great. Sex drive and all the other issues related to low T went within the first months. I cant complain in any way but its worth trying if you get offered it because I feel its no1 in trt and my endo feel the same way.

Im assuming the feelings on week 12 of low t dissappear oncr you realise that you are over reacting? Because like if i went for a blood test right now nd it came back at 20, i wouldnt be happy. As i experience many low t symptoms that i would like rectified.

Definetly good t hear that it works so well. I am aware that it is highly rated as one of if not the most effective treatments in the medical field. The studies yoy mention all show very promising findings.
I like to read how others react to it also rather than taking it straight from a study to see possible issues not brought up. This is where i see others that striggle with nebido. Some of the causes are shgb problems of missing the booster. Others are a mystery.
Im sure ill be fine though. I have to be lol.

You're a lucky guy to have such an understanding doc on your side haha. Especially through the nhs. I am most surprised.

I hope i can avoid an ai. The less drugs i need to take the better. I have resigned myself to hcg e3d or so. Prescribed or otherwise.

10 years is proof enough that it fookin works haha. Sign me up for some of whatever youre taking.
Just waiting on this stupid clomid run to finish. Bloods in a few weeks then the dreaded email.

Sure is good to have you back marcus

[marcus300]

Im assuming the feelings on week 12 of low t dissappear oncr you realise that you are over reacting? Because like if i went for a blood test right now nd it came back at 20, i wouldnt be happy. As i experience many low t symptoms that i would like rectified.

Definetly good t hear that it works so well. I am aware that it is highly rated as one of if not the most effective treatments in the medical field. The studies yoy mention all show very promising findings.
I like to read how others react to it also rather than taking it straight from a study to see possible issues not brought up. This is where i see others that striggle with nebido. Some of the causes are shgb problems of missing the booster. Others are a mystery.
Im sure ill be fine though. I have to be lol.

You're a lucky guy to have such an understanding doc on your side haha. Especially through the nhs. I am most surprised.

I hope i can avoid an ai. The less drugs i need to take the better. I have resigned myself to hcg e3d or so. Prescribed or otherwise.

10 years is proof enough that it fookin works haha. Sign me up for some of whatever youre taking.
Just waiting on this stupid clomid run to finish. Bloods in a few weeks then the dreaded email.

Sure is good to have you back marcus

check out the nebido news and research site, tons and tons of research on nebdio and benefits of trt https://www.nebido.com/en/patients/d...news/index.php


also my thread on nebido what I started
http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...py-nebido.html

[hollowedzeus]

Cheers

[hollowedzeus]

Definetly dropping fat. I am beyond exhausted however.
Feel mentally drained. Strength is up however.

Hunger is killing me. Had to make a nice cuppa tea when i got in today to stop me eating the pizza in the fridge. Had 1000kcal today and just done 1000kcal of cardio.

Time to go home and eat. Ive deserved it

[hammerheart]

What's on the menu? I'm having chicken breast and sweet potatoes.

[hollowedzeus]

What's on the menu? I'm having chicken breast and sweet potatoes.

400g of chicken with some spicy fajjita powder thrown over it. Dont think ive got any tortila wraps:0

I wish i liked sweet potato. Its supposed to be great.

I might throw rice in.... who knows, im feeling crazy tonight

[hollowedzeus]

That dinner was the best meal ive ever had. Chicken and rice but i was ravounous all the way to the end.

Also ive been recording my bp and hr.

Heart rate has settled into the low 50s.... all ive ever known it to sit at is mid 70s.
This cardio im doing must be doing me well

[NACH3]

Usually the guy who feels a huge dip at week 12 hasn't been on that long and I mean months not weeks here because this therapy really starts kicking in 6-12 months and many want faster results in blood work but they do feel better with the booster shot and the 3rd injection. Many times its in their heads because they come to week 12 and think they are low T the thing is to get bw done and see because the mind can play tricks on you.

I did feel a dip and week 10 when I was on a 12 week protocol, my endo changed it go on wk11, then I started to have blood work done because of some other reasons and they said we will drop the T bw and see how things are and they not low. I was still in the high 20's at week 11 and I was still in the 20's at week 16 because they told me to hold off until I came down. But my mind was telling me something when in reality I had normal T levels even at 16 weeks.

My endo said its because over time nebdio is great because things start to level out and build up and the lows don't really come that fast anymore. I don't know were your looking for research but you need to check out the 12 yrs 6 yrs and 4 yrs studies of nebido against test T and you will see nebido is far better. CVheck out my nebido thread in the hrt section.

Also, I don't use an ai on nebido I don't need to my levels are fine and within range. Many guys increase drop the weeks further and further and then the E levels rise. I know a few guys on nebido and I know we are all not the same but it is a wonder drug imho but our minds can play tricks on us just like it did with me. I felt like hell and when I was tested I was in my low 20's and was fine really but it does take time for build up.

When you inject it you do feel it imho and ive not cycled for 3.5 yrs and nebido kept me at my size and building, my test was high as fuk on nebido but ive been on it over 10 yrs but its always been great. Sex drive and all the other issues related to low T went within the first months. I cant complain in any way but its worth trying if you get offered it because I feel its no1 in trt and my endo feel the same way.

Our minds play such a deep 'roll'or such a deep existence in how we are feeling, what we remember, how we go on about our daily lives etc....

I commend you greatly for pushing on and you'll get the help you deserve
You deserve at the right time and everything you need! Take it from someone whose had to work backwards and give everything I had to get to where I was!

[hollowedzeus]

Im getting ready to destroy chest and triceps tonight. I am positivly itching to get back to bulking. But i will continue to cut another 3 or 4 weeks. Summer is nearly here, suns out guns out.

Going to shoot for dumbell chest press
Incline flies
Incline hammer press
French press
Dumbell skull crushers
Burnout with kickbacks

An hour of cardio.

Might throw some yohimbine in for cardio. I am still super drained. Struggling to keep my eyes open driving home tonight.

Hope i get through all the cardio. If my body starts rejecting it ill call it a day.

[hollowedzeus]

What a workout that was.

95% focus the whole way through. Very pleased. My triceps are quivering from the workout.

Also managed 1000kcal of cardio.

Came home and had an absolute feast. Carbs were up. I feel like i needed it

[NACH3]

Im getting ready to destroy chest and triceps tonight. I am positivly itching to get back to bulking. But i will continue to cut another 3 or 4 weeks. Summer is nearly here, suns out guns out.

Going to shoot for dumbell chest press
Incline flies
Incline hammer press
French press
Dumbell skull crushers
Burnout with kickbacks

An hour of cardio.

Might throw some yohimbine in for cardio. I am still super drained. Struggling to keep my eyes open driving home tonight.

Hope i get through all the cardio. If my body starts rejecting it ill call it a day.

I know across the pond youse get ephedrine/a legally have you ever tried it? At what mg x per day? Yohimbine should be taken in a stack at 12.5mgs(or if not able due to low tolerance - 7.25mgs x2 but take the second dose by 2-3pm latest

[hollowedzeus]

I know across the pond youse get ephedrine/a legally have you ever tried it? At what mg x per day? Yohimbine should be taken in a stack at 12.5mgs(or if not able due to low tolerance - 7.25mgs x2 but take the second dose by 2-3pm latest

Its a prescription only med so pretty much illegal i guess. I found bronkaid online but it was quite expensive. We used to have our own called chest eze but they discontinued it.

I ran 25mg ephedrine 200mg caffeine 5mg yohimbine x2 daily for a week there. Off it now.

I love yohimbine but hate the anxiety that accompanies it. I just took 15mg at 7pm lol. I go 10-20mg depending on how im feeling. I sometimes go 15mg synephrine 10mg yohimbine as preworkout.

Yohimbine is a nightmare to get here too. I think its almost illegal lol.

Uk is shit for everything lol

[NACH3]

Its a prescription only med so pretty much illegal i guess. I found bronkaid online but it was quite expensive. We used to have our own called chest eze but they discontinued it.

I ran 25mg ephedrine 200mg caffeine 5mg yohimbine x2 daily for a week there. Off it now.

I love yohimbine but hate the anxiety that accompanies it. I just took 15mg at 7pm lol. I go 10-20mg depending on how im feeling. I sometimes go 15mg synephrine 10mg yohimbine as preworkout.

Yohimbine is a nightmare to get here too. I think its almost illegal lol.

Uk is shit for everything lol

Oh ok did not know this - bronkaid worked well for me tbh

But real yomhimbine HCL is the shit but if you already have high anxiety it'll create much more!!! Be careful and take your blood pressure while on it & check resting HR!

[hollowedzeus]

I really didnt need to start taking it at this stage i was just being lazy. Im still a wee chunk so diet and cardio is all i need.

I love and hate it. Getting it is a pain in the arse but for cardio i love it. Ive been sat in my car at the gym not getting out until i can be sure no one can see me. Yohimbine hits ne pretty hard mentally lol

[hollowedzeus]

Woke up absolutely starving. The calories im burning through cardio seem to be taking its toll. If it could burn fat a little faster too that would be great.

Not gonna eat till lunch time. I am looking forward to it immensly. Legs are probably on the agenda for later. Hate training thek but its got to be done.

Gonna go half an hour of cardio tonight i think.

[hollowedzeus]

Started a pullback this week. Legs done tonight. Also got 50 mins of cardio thrown in.

Tried paused squats for a change. Enjoyed them.

Work then home to eat

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[hollowedzeus]

No time to train today. Might manage a 4 mile run when i get home if it isnt pissing down.

I believe i am the leanest i have ever been right now at around 85kg. I dropped to 79kg last cut. Must have put some good muscle on on the bulk

[hammerheart]

No time to train today. Might manage a 4 mile run when i get home if it isnt pissing down.

I believe i am the leanest i have ever been right now at around 85kg. I dropped to 79kg last cut. Must have put some good muscle on on the bulk

At least you don't put all the fat on breasts like I do.

[hollowedzeus]

At least you don't put all the fat on breasts like I do.

Youd be surprised. It doesnt look like it in pictures but ive got alot of gyno looking fat at the nipple. But most od my fat is stomach and back fortunatly. But u suspect the stomach fat will go before the back fat. That will look strange...

Still prodding at my left nipple. Not 100% convinced....