Cortisol and DHEA-Sulfate

[jwh7699]

Bizzarro - Have you always lived in the same part of the country? Do you sweat normally? Are you fair skinned?

Do you work the same job through out the year or do something different during the Summer?

Is there something you do in the Summer that you don't do the rest of year, like Softball, Soccer or some other outdoor activity?

Is it all 4 Cortisol Markers that go down?

[hammerheart]

Bizzarro - Have you always lived in the same part of the country? Do you sweat normally? Are you fair skinned?

Do you work the same job through out the year or do something different during the Summer?

Is there something you do in the Summer that you don't do the rest of year, like Softball, Soccer or some other outdoor activity?

Is it all 4 Cortisol Markers that go down?

Yeah Southern Italy and summer it's damn harsh here. I do sweat but not enough to prevent overheating, baseline body temp is at 99F normally and it only takes minor activity to get fever-ish.

I'm mediterannean looking but skin is rather light yes I don't tan only get sunburn.

I don't do anything different in Summer, only looked into 8am serum cortisol so far.

I'm just not suited for the environment I live in I guess.

[thisAngelBites]

Yeah Southern Italy and summer it's damn harsh here. I do sweat but not enough to prevent overheating, baseline body temp is at 99F normally and it only takes minor activity to get fever-ish.

I'm mediterannean looking but skin is rather light yes I don't tan only get sunburn.

I don't do anything different in Summer, only looked into 8am serum cortisol so far.

I'm just not suited for the environment I live in I guess.

Did your family emigrate from somewhere else? Just curious.

My family is from pretty close to you, and my skin is what they typically call light/medium, meaning I am approximately the last in the light category to the first in the middle category, and you wouldn't think I would have any issues with the sun. I spent most of my youth being softly brown from spending a lot of time outdoors.

But later I managed to give myself a sun allergy because I wasn't getting enough light. I had to wear sunscreen like mad as I got little itchy bumps after a very short while in the sun. I mentioned to my doctor in Brussels and he looked at me like I was crazy, because people w my mediterranean complexion don't have sun allergies.

A neuro surgeon friend suggested that I was not making enough alpha MSH due to not having enough sun exposure, and so I did an experiment one year, where I injected some melanotan for two weeks and then hit a tanning booth, and I browned up beautifully.

The next summer I did some reading about UV light and the skin surface and I learned that cooler skin absorbs more light, and so I would go out into the sunlight in the middle of the day and spritz my skin with cool water. Over that summer I totally tanned naturally and the sunlight regulated my cortisol, which has previously been very low. If I were you, I would get small amounts of sunlight (start at a few minutes a day if need be) on your cool skin and build up your tolerance. Do it in the winter (I always thought that was pointless, but cool skin really does absorb more photons).

Definitely try to get light into your eyes as close to sunrise as possible, and as close to sunset as possible, and then start building up your minutes in the middle of the day until you start to tan. I've seen completely white people from Scotland succeed doing it this way.

[hammerheart]

Did your family emigrate from somewhere else? Just curious.

My family is from pretty close to you, and my skin is what they typically call light/medium, meaning I am approximately the last in the light category to the first in the middle category, and you wouldn't think I would have any issues with the sun. I spent most of my youth being softly brown from spending a lot of time outdoors.

But later I managed to give myself a sun allergy because I wasn't getting enough light. I had to wear sunscreen like mad as I got little itchy bumps after a very short while in the sun. I mentioned to my doctor in Brussels and he looked at me like I was crazy, because people w my mediterranean complexion don't have sun allergies.

A neuro surgeon friend suggested that I was not making enough alpha MSH due to not having enough sun exposure, and so I did an experiment one year, where I injected some melanotan for two weeks and then hit a tanning booth, and I browned up beautifully.

The next summer I did some reading about UV light and the skin surface and I learned that cooler skin absorbs more light, and so I would go out into the sunlight in the middle of the day and spritz my skin with cool water. Over that summer I totally tanned naturally and the sunlight regulated my cortisol, which has previously been very low. If I were you, I would get small amounts of sunlight (start at a few minutes a day if need be) on your cool skin and build up your tolerance. Do it in the winter (I always thought that was pointless, but cool skin really does absorb more photons).

Definitely try to get light into your eyes as close to sunrise as possible, and as close to sunset as possible, and then start building up your minutes in the middle of the day until you start to tan. I've seen completely white people from Scotland succeed doing it this way.

No recent emigration history but being a southern Italian means lot of admixture from abroad, especially the med basin. You take a walk on the street and can meet any phenotype you can think of, that explains the mixed traits some display, ie. light skin but dark hair and eyes, yet many of my relatives (including myself) were born with much lighter features, only to darken later during childhood.

I can expose face and extremities to the Sun no prob even in summer, skin gets redder but not irritated, full body exposure is a big no-no but I don't care about tanning.

It sounds to me that your low cortisol was due to disrupted circadian patterns, the hypothalamus regulates those and does so via sensory information from the optic nerve. I can maintain normal sleep/wake patterns but I do have many issues with the hypothalamus other than cortisol - idiopathic low T, idiopathic high prolactin, issues with body temp regulation, and pretty much every function the hypothalamus is concerned with.

[jwh7699]

Did your family emigrate from somewhere else? Just curious.

My family is from pretty close to you, and my skin is what they typically call light/medium, meaning I am approximately the last in the light category to the first in the middle category, and you wouldn't think I would have any issues with the sun. I spent most of my youth being softly brown from spending a lot of time outdoors.

But later I managed to give myself a sun allergy because I wasn't getting enough light. I had to wear sunscreen like mad as I got little itchy bumps after a very short while in the sun. I mentioned to my doctor in Brussels and he looked at me like I was crazy, because people w my mediterranean complexion don't have sun allergies.

A neuro surgeon friend suggested that I was not making enough alpha MSH due to not having enough sun exposure, and so I did an experiment one year, where I injected some melanotan for two weeks and then hit a tanning booth, and I browned up beautifully.

The next summer I did some reading about UV light and the skin surface and I learned that cooler skin absorbs more light, and so I would go out into the sunlight in the middle of the day and spritz my skin with cool water. Over that summer I totally tanned naturally and the sunlight regulated my cortisol, which has previously been very low. If I were you, I would get small amounts of sunlight (start at a few minutes a day if need be) on your cool skin and build up your tolerance. Do it in the winter (I always thought that was pointless, but cool skin really does absorb more photons).

Definitely try to get light into your eyes as close to sunrise as possible, and as close to sunset as possible, and then start building up your minutes in the middle of the day until you start to tan. I've seen completely white people from Scotland succeed doing it this way.

Question regarding getting light into the eyes. If sunrise is at 5am and I don't have to be up until 7am. Is it ok to sit outside at 5am for 20 minutes and then go back to sleep, to raise Cortisol? Are you trying to get light at sunset to increase the Cortisol or to show your brain that it is time to make less Cortisol?

Thanks!!