bro if you" got it" from this mess you should be writing books on the subject. this is not a flame or an insult but you do not have it. running dbol for 8-10 weeks is a no no. you can run deca and dbol without test, contrary to what many believe, i have done it and with much success. my first cycle was just dbol and deca. this is a pro test board, so alot of guys recommend test with every cycle.i would advise taking some test, but it is not(in my opinion) a must, and i can argue this all day because i use deca always and i am probably it's biggest fan. so my opinion is slighlty bias. you need to do alot more research, and do not,listen to your so called well educated source..because he obviously is not. stick around and ask questions. you'll get your answers.Originally Posted by dragon_meth
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