Here goes.. My before pics (current as of 1/7)

[GearHeaded]

So based on my knowledge of steroids.... this is the stack I was planning on jumping on to go into the bulking phase of my journey. Now that recomp is coming to an end, I was planning on running some "wet" compounds as you had suggested...

Maybe you can give me some insight into if these compounds are appropriate to run together based on their class...

Nandolone 600mg/week, Test is coming up to 750mg/week, keeping Winny in to maintain separation at just 25mg/day, and dropping Tren and Mast....Although I really feel like I'm giving up a piece of my heart by letting the Tren go lol. I'm thinking if I drop it for a couple months and then jump back on I'll be more "sensitized" to it like you mentioned and I'll respond better to it cause I feel like gains from Tren have plateaued... Also thinking that since Tren is a form of Nandrolone, if I switch to another Nandrolone then I'll won't lose any of the gains I've made on Tren.. (Although I'm guessing I'll lose some strength..) What do you think about this man?

I absolutely agree with going from a recomp into a 'wet' bulk.

Deca or NPP (or preferably both, I always use NPP to front load any deca cycle I do) at the 600+ range with high dose of Test is a good start.
I'd do something like run NPP for the first 5 weeks at 100mg EOD then run Deca at 500mg per week for weeks 1-10 (or just run NPP at 600 with no deca . . . depends on what your doing with the deca, sometimes guys are cruising with it)
Running winny with this is not a bad idea, as it has a strong affinity to SHBG and will thus free up more test and make the deca and test both work better. HOWEVER , you can accomplish this with a lot less toxic compound then winny , you can use Proviron or a small dose of Mast, AND then you can add something like Dbol to your Test/Deca cycle. I don't advise Dbol and Winny together. but proviron or mast with Dbol is fine. Run the Dbol the whole 8-10 weeks of your blast. start at a high dose and taper down. you'll have a new found appreciation for Dbol if you run it properly . these short 4 weeks runs of Dbol are bullshit and the gains are pissed away. dbol can really help add size but you have to give it a chance to do its thing over time. its a great nutrient partitioner and its 'wet' in more then the estrogenic sense, it really helps fill out inter cellular water retention (which is a good thing for growth because when more glycogen and water are being forced into the muscle cells then so is more amino acids and nutrients)

Thats going to be a good 'wet' clean bulk and you'll put on lots of size.. when done with that take some time off and go to your cruise (pm me for cruise recommendations, as I don't like giving that out in public view)

yes take a break and get off the Tren train for just a short time. BUT , when your done with your short cruise, you'll jump right back on Tren, only this time you'll stack Tren with some bulkers instead of the cutters you been running it with. Tren stacked with bulkers is going to open up a whole new love affair for you with Tren, its a whole different animal. Stack Tren with some Anadrol and perhaps a low dose of Ment. keep your AI's limited, but run some Nolva and Caber if need be. Up your calories big time on this bulk. the Tren with bulkers like that and a higher amount of estrogen in the body is going to illicit a ton of natty IGF production and a ton of new growth.
taking HGH and some Slin at the same time of this, and you will blow up!! keep your diet clean and it will be good quality size.

take another break when your done with that cycle and cruise..

next round, its time to keep things clean for awhile and put on some size with some quality anabolics. low dose test with high doses of EQ, Primobolan, and a little more nandrolone, perhaps VAR as your oral. giving yourself a break from the harsher compounds and the more estrogenic compounds . may be a good time to run some peptides and some IGF during this phase as well. you won't have to worry about any estrogen sides during this time. your just going to keep it really clean and not blow up, but keep getting lean quality gains during this phase.

anyhow, now I'm just rambling on. just trying to paint a picture for you sort of speak of what things may look like and ideas to go about it

[AlphaMindz]

I absolutely agree with going from a recomp into a 'wet' bulk.

Deca or NPP (or preferably both, I always use NPP to front load any deca cycle I do) at the 600+ range with high dose of Test is a good start.
I'd do something like run NPP for the first 5 weeks at 100mg EOD then run Deca at 500mg per week for weeks 1-10 (or just run NPP at 600 with no deca . . . depends on what your doing with the deca, sometimes guys are cruising with it)
Running winny with this is not a bad idea, as it has a strong affinity to SHBG and will thus free up more test and make the deca and test both work better. HOWEVER , you can accomplish this with a lot less toxic compound then winny , you can use Proviron or a small dose of Mast, AND then you can add something like Dbol to your Test/Deca cycle. I don't advise Dbol and Winny together. but proviron or mast with Dbol is fine. Run the Dbol the whole 8-10 weeks of your blast. start at a high dose and taper down. you'll have a new found appreciation for Dbol if you run it properly . these short 4 weeks runs of Dbol are bullshit and the gains are pissed away. dbol can really help add size but you have to give it a chance to do its thing over time. its a great nutrient partitioner and its 'wet' in more then the estrogenic sense, it really helps fill out inter cellular water retention (which is a good thing for growth because when more glycogen and water are being forced into the muscle cells then so is more amino acids and nutrients)

Thats going to be a good 'wet' clean bulk and you'll put on lots of size.. when done with that take some time off and go to your cruise (pm me for cruise recommendations, as I don't like giving that out in public view)

yes take a break and get off the Tren train for just a short time. BUT , when your done with your short cruise, you'll jump right back on Tren, only this time you'll stack Tren with some bulkers instead of the cutters you been running it with. Tren stacked with bulkers is going to open up a whole new love affair for you with Tren, its a whole different animal. Stack Tren with some Anadrol and perhaps a low dose of Ment. keep your AI's limited, but run some Nolva and Caber if need be. Up your calories big time on this bulk. the Tren with bulkers like that and a higher amount of estrogen in the body is going to illicit a ton of natty IGF production and a ton of new growth.
taking HGH and some Slin at the same time of this, and you will blow up!! keep your diet clean and it will be good quality size.

take another break when your done with that cycle and cruise..

next round, its time to keep things clean for awhile and put on some size with some quality anabolics. low dose test with high doses of EQ, Primobolan, and a little more nandrolone, perhaps VAR as your oral. giving yourself a break from the harsher compounds and the more estrogenic compounds . may be a good time to run some peptides and some IGF during this phase as well. you won't have to worry about any estrogen sides during this time. your just going to keep it really clean and not blow up, but keep getting lean quality gains during this phase.

anyhow, now I'm just rambling on. just trying to paint a picture for you sort of speak of what things may look like and ideas to go about it

You painted one hell of a picture man. What your saying makes perfect sense to me. I can't wait to see how Tren works with some wet compounds cause I've only ever run it for recomp or cutting. Also very excited to see how I respond to the Nandrolone.

I feel like this is the exciting part cause I'm literally building this from scratch, and as badly as I wanna be huge, I also wanna enjoy the journey!

So you've been at it hard for about 6 years now? Can you remember when you made the most notable gains in terms of overall composition...?

Your advice has been so valuable bro I really appreciate how freely you give this info. I feel like it's worth so much! This has taught me that I need a coach if I wanna do this for real. Having someone like you in my corner is critical cause I would waste so much time not doing shit perfectly and if I just listen to you I feel like I'd be far more efficient.

Do you coach at all? How would that work? If we don't live close enough then would you have someone you could possibly refer me to or could we just do it via internet..? This is something I'm seriously considering.

[GearHeaded]

You painted one hell of a picture man. What your saying makes perfect sense to me. I can't wait to see how Tren works with some wet compounds cause I've only ever run it for recomp or cutting. Also very excited to see how I respond to the Nandrolone.

I feel like this is the exciting part cause I'm literally building this from scratch, and as badly as I wanna be huge, I also wanna enjoy the journey!

So you've been at it hard for about 6 years now? Can you remember when you made the most notable gains in terms of overall composition...?

Your advice has been so valuable bro I really appreciate how freely you give this info. I feel like it's worth so much! This has taught me that I need a coach if I wanna do this for real. Having someone like you in my corner is critical cause I would waste so much time not doing shit perfectly and if I just listen to you I feel like I'd be far more efficient.

Do you coach at all? How would that work? If we don't live close enough then would you have someone you could possibly refer me to or could we just do it via internet..? This is something I'm seriously considering.

whats in bold is the exact reason why people hire coaches. its a small cost for time saving efficiency and reaching goals. lots of guys spend years and years spinning their wheels and not getting much of anywhere.

YES I do online coaching as well as in person coaching and personal training. I even currently have veteran members of this forum whom I'm coaching.
full service online coaching consists of me designing training programs and protocols (using some advanced methods where needed), the diet in complete detail, supplementation, AAS protocols, "how to" coaching in regards to things like insulin timing and use,, and direct access to me 24/7 via phone and email to instruct, teach and coach.
I currently have about 30 clients. But coaching, training, and running my gym are my full time job , NOT a side gig, so I take the time needed with clients. PM me and I'll send you my email if you want to discuss details further

So you've been at it hard for about 6 years now? Can you remember when you made the most notable gains in terms of overall composition...?

I'm 40 years old. I took my first steroid injection at 17 years old (which was a mistake btw). my intrigue to study steroids goes back 23 years.. So yeah I've been involved in fitness in one way or another for a long time. not always bodybuilding though. I've spent a lot of years learning from people way smarter then myself. I've interacted with and learned from guys at a high level in the body building industry as well. I've paid guys to mentor me and teach me. Instead of paying thousands of dollars for a master or phd degree, waste a ton of that $ and only learn about 10% of what I need to know, , I simply pay people with those degrees to teach me the 'golden nuggets' of what they learned (they paid for the degree, and I'm just taking what I can from them

the most noticeable gains came a few years back when the synergy between diet, training, AND drug use came together for me and really clicked. lots of guys think of training as one thing, diet as another, and AAS as another ,, BUT when you sync these three things together and make one work for the other and vice a versa everything comes together.
I don't just have a fixed diet, a fixed training program, and then throw 12 week AAS cycles at it. I pick my food, I pick my training program, and I pick my drugs with a purpose to all work together.
when that clicked for me and I started periodizing my training, diet, and drug use, my body comp really started to change and take off.

now of course, life happens, and after that all came together for me I end up with major health issues and had 3 surgeries , was in a wheel chair and bed ridden for months . lost about 40 pounds of that hard earned muscle. but I'm recovering and its coming back I still have all the experience and all I learned in my head so it will all come back I'm sure. Though I don't have plans on getting too big with my blood pressure and heart issues, 5'9", 220, 10% is all I'm looking for (I'm really small boned, so thats fairly big for me). I got about 15 more pounds to go to get it back. but its not my main purpose, training and coaching clients and friends of mine at my gym is my main passion