For got to add I am running the caber as well sir. No need for the hcg or post card I am on trt and I’ll go right back to it. But I will say after reading everything that you all have posted on the hcg I am thinking of running it just to see what happens. I will be honest too I have thought about completely coming off even the trt for a couple of months see what the tests say off so I think you have me thinking I will get everything for post cycle just to have . Thank you sir appreciate your input. I am doing that with the prop using it kind of like dbol my body doesn’t like the orals.