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    To clarify, you went and got a blood test while on pct?

    If you are still on a course of pct meds (nolva and clomid) your testosterone should be sky high. The reason it is not adviced to get a blood test until 6 to 8 weeks after pct is because your results will be too high due to the serms.

    If i am correct and you were on pct when you had the test, one of two things imo.

    - your use of gear has rendered you unable to produce testosterone again even through the use of serms

    - you have been using low grade or fake pct meds.
    The fact you mention cardarine suggests to me that you perhaps got your pct meds also off a research chemical site? Correct me if i am wrong please. But if this was the case, and you didnt use pharma grade pct then you might have been running caffeine pills for all you know.

    My advice... if youre using anything other than pharmaceutical grade clomid/nolva. Retry the pct with pharma grade meds.

    If you have been using pharma meds you can look into dr scallys pct protocol. It involves hcg, nolva and clomid. Its final attempt at restarting before trt.

    Others will give their thoughts.

    Best of luck to you mate hope things start gettinf better for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollowedzeus View Post
    To clarify, you went and got a blood test while on pct?

    If you are still on a course of pct meds (nolva and clomid) your testosterone should be sky high. The reason it is not adviced to get a blood test until 6 to 8 weeks after pct is because your results will be too high due to the serms.

    If i am correct and you were on pct when you had the test, one of two things imo.

    - your use of gear has rendered you unable to produce testosterone again even through the use of serms

    - you have been using low grade or fake pct meds.
    The fact you mention cardarine suggests to me that you perhaps got your pct meds also off a research chemical site? Correct me if i am wrong please. But if this was the case, and you didnt use pharma grade pct then you might have been running caffeine pills for all you know.

    My advice... if youre using anything other than pharmaceutical grade clomid/nolva. Retry the pct with pharma grade meds.

    If you have been using pharma meds you can look into dr scallys pct protocol. It involves hcg, nolva and clomid. Its final attempt at restarting before trt.

    Others will give their thoughts.

    Best of luck to you mate hope things start gettinf better for you
    Yes I did purchase my pct meds off the same research site. If my pct meds are fake or underdosed, why then would my estrogen be low (it is currently <5.0). Also, if my pct meds were fake does that essentially mean I went off cold turkey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat702 View Post
    Yes I did purchase my pct meds off the same research site. If my pct meds are fake or underdosed, why then would my estrogen be low (it is currently <5.0). Also, if my pct meds were fake does that essentially mean I went off cold turkey?
    Im not saying they were fake but if they were yes you essentially just dropped the test and carried on as normal.

    If you dont have much test in your system then there will be nothing to aromatise into estrogen.

    Its a tricky situation to be in as you just dont know what was in those pills/liquids

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollowedzeus View Post
    Im not saying they were fake but if they were yes you essentially just dropped the test and carried on as normal.

    If you dont have much test in your system then there will be nothing to aromatise into estrogen.

    Its a tricky situation to be in as you just dont know what was in those pills/liquids
    Well I will say I have run their cardarine and few times and have been disappointed as I never noticed any of the so called "endurance benefits" and my lipid panel did not benefit either. However, I took their aromasin and had a blood test done during cycle where my test was >1500 but my estrogen was within range at 12.1.

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