Horrible Anxiety/Depression on cycle

[Fernande]

Incorrect, propionate has the sharpest rise and sharpest fall of all esters. Propionate does very little in keeping you "afloat", while enanthate keeps a large amount of residual which will ensure a minimum level.

38,76 divided by 59,8 = 64,8% = 35.2% difference fluctuation.

28,51 divided by 45,7 = 62,3% = 37,7% difference in fluctuation.

It is basic math. With ED prop you inject every 24hours wich is 50% of the active half life.

With E3.5D Enanthate you inject every 84 hours wich is 70% of the active half life.

[Fernande]

I can sense that my CNS is somehow in overload. I have this constant underlying agression that i can't sustain in civilised society, like i want to go to war but i have to be a nice little guy walking around with flowers.

I'm wondering if perhaps my DHT and Test levels are to high for me to handle. Perhaps i should just quit the masterone and try a lower dose of test.

[Mr.BB]

Ffs, steroids are just a few of the hormones inside our bodies. Stop thinking everything is related to androgenic hormones.

Stop the dumb ass gear usage, and start therapy if you are unable to help yourself (which most ppl are).

There are hundreds of hormones transmitting information around in our bodies, don't be a prisoner of a couple of those. It's not how it works, your depression is something different.

[Fernande]

Ffs, steroids are just a few of the hormones inside our bodies. Stop thinking everything is related to androgenic hormones.

Stop the dumb ass gear usage, and start therapy if you are unable to help yourself (which most ppl are).

There are hundreds of hormones transmitting information around in our bodies, don't be a prisoner of a couple of those. It's not how it works, your depression is something different.

Well this all started when i crushed my e2 down to single digits. And you can read about people like that that they all feel terrible and basicly feel suicidal.

[Mr.BB]

Well this all started when i crushed my e2 down to single digits. And you can read about people like that that they all feel terrible and basicly feel suicidal.

All in your head. I had e2 at zero several times, did not make me suicidal or depressive.

Keep seeking excuses for your depression and you will have a hard time finding solutions.

[Fernande]

All in your head. I had e2 at zero several times, did not make me suicidal or depressive.

Keep seeking excuses for your depression and you will have a hard time finding solutions.

Not in my head, alot of people report the same thing even though some people also report haivng low E don't seem to do anything at times. I guess it depends on how long you stay low and how low you are.

[cousinmuscles]

38,76 divided by 59,8 = 64,8% = 35.2% difference fluctuation.

28,51 divided by 45,7 = 62,3% = 37,7% difference in fluctuation.

It is basic math. With ED prop you inject every 24hours wich is 50% of the active half life.

With E3.5D Enanthate you inject every 84 hours wich is 70% of the active half life.

Incorrect, you have never seen the pharmacokinetics graphs, enanthate keeps high 3 days post injection http://www.fertstert.org/article/S00...16)44543-7/pdf

Enanthate also leaves lots of residual esterified test, so that while 600mg would bring you at ~4000 ng/dl, at peaks, seven days post injection it will be just under 2400 https://www.physiology.org/doi/pdf/1...01.281.6.E1172

It's just facts

Will running a low dose mast for a year fuck you up somehow? I've heard of guys running it for years on their own little trt regimens without problem.

Yeah keep relying on your bros telling you what is fine.

I can sense that my CNS is somehow in overload. I have this constant underlying agression that i can't sustain in civilised society, like i want to go to war but i have to be a nice little guy walking around with flowers.

I'm wondering if perhaps my DHT and Test levels are to high for me to handle. Perhaps i should just quit the masterone and try a lower dose of test.

Or seek professional help.

[Fernande]

Incorrect, you have never seen the pharmacokinetics graphs, enanthate keeps high 3 days post injection http://www.fertstert.org/article/S00...16)44543-7/pdf

Enanthate also leaves lots of residual esterified test, so that while 600mg would bring you at ~4000 ng/dl, at peaks, seven days post injection it will be just under 2400 https://www.physiology.org/doi/pdf/1...01.281.6.E1172

It's just facts

Yeah keep relying on your bros telling you what is fine.

Or seek professional help.

I read both links. They say nothing about what we talked about. Only that enanthate and cypionate seem to be equal. That Enanthate keeps high 3days after injection says nothing at all.

I stay with my argument that ED prop injections are more stable and less fluctuating than e3.5d enanthate injections, unless you can show some evidence that the half life of enanthate actually is longer than 5 days by any certain mechanism.

[cousinmuscles]

I read both links. They say nothing about what we talked about. Only that enanthate and cypionate seem to be equal. That Enanthate keeps high 3days after injection says nothing at all.

I stay with my argument that ED prop injections are more stable and less fluctuating than e3.5d enanthate injections, unless you can show some evidence that the half life of enanthate actually is longer than 5 days by any certain mechanism.

Then learn to read.

[Fernande]

Then learn to read.

I did mr salty because hes wrong.

[cousinmuscles]

I did mr salty because hes wrong.

Sorry, you didn't need to read, just watch the graph on the first study and the table with test levels on the second study. LOL.

Good luck with whatever you're doing, seems I can't come to help for you.

[Chrisp83TRT]

I did mr salty because hes wrong.

No reason to insult people that are trying to help you.
You are technically in this mess because you didn’t listen in the first place when people told you to do a b and c before and you are still fighting people that know their stuff . Trust me , be reasonable and take whatever advice you can get

[Pmft]

I think this whole thread is a joke. These are the dumbest statements ever.

I can sense that my CNS is somehow in overload. I have this constant underlying agression that i can't sustain in civilised society, like i want to go to war but i have to be a nice little guy walking around with flowers.

I'm wondering if perhaps my DHT and Test levels are to high for me to handle. Perhaps i should just quit the masterone and try a lower dose of test.

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[Fernande]

I think this whole thread is a joke. These are the dumbest statements ever.

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You think i find this fun, that im trolling feeling awful? Trust me it's no joke.