August Most Improved Competition [ENTRY OPEN until start]

[Capebuffalo]

All of y'all are really from Ellijay, Ga., right?

Not far from.

[Capebuffalo]

Yep that guy pretends he's doing things in the gym. Occasionally he might go pump up his quads on the leg extension machine, that's all.

We will find out soon enough Jerry’s little cousin. Soon enough.

[Capebuffalo]

I see AG found our thread. Hell yeah.

[Charlie67]

Arms -

Farmer's walk 2 wo

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I like doing Farmers Walks, but there's no room in my gym. I should just ask if I can drag a bunch wait outside, LOL.

Good back and bi workout, diet still on track. Vascularity getting better

Looking thick Tarzan, good work!

Great work guys!

Leg day for me!

Damn Kitty, that's a hella've a workout, good job!



I was in for a pretty good back workout today. Taco salad night with the kids tonight, then they want to go to the mall... Please, someone shoot me.... F'ing Forever 21 is killing me. School starts next week, so naturally everyone is going crazy.

Have a terrific weekend everyone!
C-

[almostgone]

Whew...really good competition, ladies and gents. Just caught up. Time to pull some parts from the furnace and tinker around for a bit.

[Capebuffalo]

🤣hahaha

I bet you never heard ol' Marshall Dillon say
"Miss Kitty, have you ever thought of runnin' away?
And settling' down, would you marry me?
If I asked you twice and begged you pretty please?"
Lord, she'd have said yes in a New York minute
They never tied the knot
His heart wasn't in it, he just stole a kiss and he rode away
He never hung his brim up at Kitty's place

[almostgone]

I see AG found our thread. Hell yeah.

Yes sir! Damn good one, too. Lots of support w/o too much smack talk. Doesn't get any better.

[Capebuffalo]

Yes sir! Damn good one, too. Lots of support w/o too much smack talk. Doesn't get any better.

Wait till the tren kicks in. I’ll have to up my smack talk

[guitarzan]

Wait till the tren kicks in. I’ll have to up my smack talk

Wife ask me bout a hour ago if I was on tren, I said what difference does that make. Apparently she thinks I was a little short tempered at a restaurant early tonight...lol

[almostgone]

Wife ask me bout a hour ago if I was on tren, I said what difference does that make. Apparently she thinks I was a little short tempered at a restaurant early tonight...lol

I get the same from Mrs. AG. My last 2 times w/ tren we're tren ace @ only 200mg /week. Whenever she and I go out she already accuses me of "stalking" the crowds, but even on low dose tren ace she says it worse. My jaw is clenched and I stare holes in people by her account of things.
Have been sitting on some amps of tren HHC for a while. If all goes well at me next checkup, I may try the HHC at 200mg/week. My high dose days of tren are long gone and I seem.to get decent results at that level w/o my heart blowing a gasket or blood turning to strawberry jam.
Think it was Kel that turned me onto running it at the low dose, and as usual, he was correct.

[almostgone]

Wait till the tren kicks in. I’ll have to up my smack talk

Awww, dang, and it's summer time in the South too; that's going to be entertaining.

[guitarzan]

I get the same from Mrs. AG. My last 2 times w/ tren we're tren ace @ only 200mg /week. Whenever she and I go out she already accuses me of "stalking" the crowds, but even on low dose tren ace she says it worse. My jaw is clenched and I stare holes in people by her account of things.
Have been sitting on some amps of tren HHC for a while. If all goes well at me next checkup, I may try the HHC at 200mg/week. My high dose days of tren are long gone and I seem.to get decent results at that level w/o my heart blowing a gasket or blood turning to strawberry jam.
Think it was Kel that turned me onto running it at the low dose, and as usual, he was correct.

Haha, yea that sounds like me! Of course, I act like that anyway, when I'm in a crowd of dumb asses

[cousinmuscles]

Been thinking of the cycle plan and evaluated the last cycle I did which was test only 700mg per week. It wasn't as good as my first cycle of test only but still about 75% as good, but IMO a bit too slow. I'd rather not spend months taking a chance on the magic of npp and just doing 700mg total gear. I'm upping it to 700 test prop 350 npp, so I essentially get last cycles results plus whatever npp gives, 1g gear total. 25mg aromasin per day should have me covered.. If the results are good I'll repeat that for a couple cycles until change is needed.

[Charlie67]

Been thinking of the cycle plan and evaluated the last cycle I did which was test only 700mg per week. It wasn't as good as my first cycle of test only but still about 75% as good, but IMO a bit too slow. I'd rather not spend months taking a chance on the magic of npp and just doing 700mg total gear. I'm upping it to 700 test prop 350 npp, so I essentially get last cycles results plus whatever npp gives, 1g gear total. 25mg aromasin per day should have me covered.. If the results are good I'll repeat that for a couple cycles until change is needed.

Don't the board rules dictate that the first response to your post be "age, weight, stats, cycle history..." [emoji39][emoji23]

Just kidding, sounds like a plan. 1 gram of gear a week is maybe more than I'm willing to run but I'm nowhere near as advanced as you are. One thing I always hate when trying a new compounds is trying to figure out how much AI I need to use. I feel like I'm totally guessing. Sure, it's an informed guess based on my past cycles, but until i get bloodwork, every little weird thing makes me wonder if I'm getting it wrong and I'm always like "wtf....?"

I still have a few more weeks before I start, I think I'm going to hit a basic Test / Mast run. I've only run Mast one time, and this might be unrelated, but I felt like I had to pee all night long. I've read about its effect on prostate and assumed that was my situation. It went away shortly after I got off. I think I'm going to run a low dose of Cialis to see if that helps. Still unsure, so I'm open to ideas.

[hammerheart]

Don't the board rules dictate that the first response to your post be "age, weight, stats, cycle history..." [emoji39][emoji23]

Just kidding, sounds like a plan. 1 gram of gear a week is maybe more than I'm willing to run but I'm nowhere near as advanced as you are. One thing I always hate when trying a new compounds is trying to figure out how much AI I need to use. I feel like I'm totally guessing. Sure, it's an informed guess based on my past cycles, but until i get bloodwork, every little weird thing makes me wonder if I'm getting it wrong and I'm always like "wtf....?"

I still have a few more weeks before I start, I think I'm going to hit a basic Test / Mast run. I've only run Mast one time, and this might be unrelated, but I felt like I had to pee all night long. I've read about its effect on prostate and assumed that was my situation. It went away shortly after I got off. I think I'm going to run a low dose of Cialis to see if that helps. Still unsure, so I'm open to ideas.

It's likely the drying effect of mast or something about CNS control of bladder function. I've that problem too and it's not prostate related. It's not like prostate issues come and go withing days.

[guitarzan]

I've had that issue with mast, and cialis definitely helped

[cousinmuscles]

Don't the board rules dictate that the first response to your post be "age, weight, stats, cycle history..." [emoji39][emoji23]

Just kidding, sounds like a plan. 1 gram of gear a week is maybe more than I'm willing to run but I'm nowhere near as advanced as you are. One thing I always hate when trying a new compounds is trying to figure out how much AI I need to use. I feel like I'm totally guessing. Sure, it's an informed guess based on my past cycles, but until i get bloodwork, every little weird thing makes me wonder if I'm getting it wrong and I'm always like "wtf....?"

I still have a few more weeks before I start, I think I'm going to hit a basic Test / Mast run. I've only run Mast one time, and this might be unrelated, but I felt like I had to pee all night long. I've read about its effect on prostate and assumed that was my situation. It went away shortly after I got off. I think I'm going to run a low dose of Cialis to see if that helps. Still unsure, so I'm open to ideas.

No actually good first response, you need that info for any meaningful feedback. Im 30, weigh 80kg after carb depletion, started at 82 point something kg. Latest best stats 140kg bench for 2 reps, 250kg deadlift for 3, 90kg seated military press for 6, have done squats 200kg for 3 sets of 3 but last session the carb depletion only let me do one set lol.

Cycle history, in late 2016 I started my first cycle 250mg test enanthate E3D. Went good and at week 12 I upped my deadlift by 20kg, bench by close to 10kg, then I got this stupid idea of trying to extend the cycle which was a waste of time. This ended up being a horrendous cycle as my natural test was below 400ng/dL to begin with. Recovery was awful and I ended up looking worse than before the cycle. I had to train for months to get my stats back to where they were to begin with.

Second cycle, started august 2017, was same test dosage but added some anadrol, went damn good, better results than the first, 30kg gain in deadlifts, 20kg gain in bench press. I decided not to PCT and found a doctor that could help and started TRT. I first thought I wouldn't do any cycle for a long time but my doc gave me the schedule for bloods and found ample opportunities, did a test only cycle that finished in June. That went well, only a little higher test 700mg/week. Approx 20kg gain in my deadlift (from 240kg for a single to 250kg for a triple) but not as well in other lifts, I figured I didn't train my triceps good enough to be honest and many pressing movements didn't go up as much.

I have the AI dosing figured and with aromasin I have experimented with 25mg/day, it won't crash my estrogen on cycle. I got good bloods at 12,5mg/day on 250mg test E3D (583mg/week). At 25mg/day the maths seem correct for 700 test and 350 NPP, nandrolone aromatizes at a rate of 20% of that of testosterone, so it would be the equivalent of 770 plus my nebido (1000mg undecanoate/12 weeks = 83,3 mg undecanoate = equivalent of 75mg test E per week) = 850mg test. I will use cabergoline at 0,25mg twice per week as preventative measure despite trying to control estrogen.

Whether 1g is too much/a waste of gear I don't know, I just know test and anadrol was better than test only, and I am only guessing 700 test/350 NPP will be better than 350 test/350 NPP, I don't get any noticeable sides from test. From all I know it will just bring up hematocrit a bit more, maybe 2-3% more with the additional test? and will make HDL drop a couple points more, which isn't that bad IMO and I am trying hard to keep my diet clean and supplement with niacin, fish oil, NAC. I know for sure though orals will be much worse both for my digestive system and my lipids.

As you see I am not advanced at all, I am on my fourth (effectively third since the first was trash) cycle. Maybe I should keep the amount of gear at 700mg total. Nandrolone is said to be stronger than test in a mg to mg basis, so it's more than 700mg test. Open for suggestions and have 3 weeks to think about this...

Another thing I think about is I'm planning to do lots and lots of cycles, so I'd rather not jump straight into too high dosages (especially if they won't give me any more results than using less gear) and keep my health in check throughout my whole AAS career. So all blood values must be good before any cycle starts. I plan to push this until I have come to a point where no amount of gear, no training method/intensity, no amount of food can yield in any more results, or I have accumulated enough injuries that I can't train hard, although I take lots of preventative measures for this...

Any input highly appreciated!

[cousinmuscles]

A reason to stay at 700mg total gear is to fix the training mistakes I made and force upon me better results rather than more gear. Training mistakes done last cycle: Way too little training for triceps, too many sessions with 90%+ of 1RM in a 10 week period (lots of CNS fatigue). Solution is on chest/tricep day, I do two chest exercises, then a tricep exercise, then dips. Previously I did two chest then dips and no tricep only. I did close grip bench but for some reason this doesn't fatigue my triceps as much, I figured it during this period that my mechanics make it that way, I won't do close grip presses for a while again. Solution for the heavy lifts is lift at lower % of 1RM on my alternate exercises, since I alternate squats/box squats, deads/SLDL or rack pulls, bench/db bench, seated bb press/seated DB press. The box squat, SLDL, db bench, db press can be at 8+ reps instead up to 12 reps, less strain on the CNS more hypertrophy. The main lifts just go for record setting at 2-5 reps. With a deload pre cycle and only 8 week cycle, this makes for ~4 heavy sessions on each movement, I shouldn't burn out and need a deload during this time.

[Charlie67]

Damn cousin, now that's a thorough and thoughtful reply... Out of curiosity how long did you run your first cycle? I did a lot of similar things, and I remember my first PCT being pretty uncomfortable. I appreciate your dedication to the cause. I agree with you completely, I plan to run cycles for as long as I can. Or until nothing else works. Other than my own experience, I just don't know enough about these things to be of much help in advising anyone on cycles, but you're thinking seems reasonable and sound to me.

90% of your 1RM is up there for a routine workout. Lately I've been doing chest twice a week, doing 3 sets of 3-5 reps one day, 60-70% of that for 6 sets of 3 on the other day. It seems to be a good mix of strength and growth for me. Nonetheless, it seems like you're thoughtful enough to figure out what's working for you.

Best of luck brother,
C-

[Charlie67]

Here's how super cool I am, gym time on Saturday night at 8 pm. As you can see, I had the entire place to myself.



I was in for shoulders. I could write it all out but basically I did about five exercises for 3 to 5 sets per exercise. I felt pretty good, and my focus was good. I'm still plagued by this sore bicep, I think I'm going to try some BPC157, I ran a few weeks of TB500, I think it helped, but not much. Overall I'm happy I got my workout in. I normally take Saturdays off but tomorrow I have to travel, thus my date night with the gym tonight.



I hope everyone's having a great weekend so far!

C-

[Obs]

I get the same from Mrs. AG. My last 2 times w/ tren we're tren ace @ only 200mg /week. Whenever she and I go out she already accuses me of "stalking" the crowds, but even on low dose tren ace she says it worse. My jaw is clenched and I stare holes in people by her account of things.
Have been sitting on some amps of tren HHC for a while. If all goes well at me next checkup, I may try the HHC at 200mg/week. My high dose days of tren are long gone and I seem.to get decent results at that level w/o my heart blowing a gasket or blood turning to strawberry jam.
Think it was Kel that turned me onto running it at the low dose, and as usual, he was correct.

Been getting a lot of guys asking me about low dose deca and tren. I always think of kel as the shining example.

I cant do crowds anymore. Causes big issues with the gf who wants me to go to a concert etc.
Shiiiiiiit! Yeah you just put me in a crowd of Hank Jr fans that are all drunk, high, and mouthy. Not a chance.
I want to strangle people at the grocery store for being slow walking inconsiderate buttholes, even without gear.
Put me shoulder to shoulder in a woodstock crowd of hippies and rednecks and I will leave in a cop car.

[hammerheart]

Tren has never affected my blood counts to any extent at any dose, I only seem to get the androgenic boost from it. I thus wonder if it targets muscle receptors at all.

I'll be upping my Test this fall but I'll switch to a longer ester, was thinking Decanoate (homebrew). I don't feel stable on enanthate not even with ED pins.

[almostgone]

Tren has never affected my blood counts to any extent at any dose, I only seem to get the androgenic boost from it. I thus wonder if it targets muscle receptors at all.

I'll be upping my Test this fall but I'll switch to a longer ester, was thinking Decanoate (homebrew). I don't feel stable on enanthate not even with ED pins.

Unusual. You would think with ED pins @ a low dose you would get a cumulative effect that would give you minimal troughs and peaks.
I tried some UGL test d a while back during a small blast and didn't really feel much difference compared to test cyp. On the other hand, I only ran 10ml @ 1ml/week and didn't pull any labs for feedback. Some guys pin it once/week and report decent total and free T values on their trough day. I would've thought that it would eventually require an adjustment to a lower dosage, but they stay @ the same dosage.
What kind of pinning schedule are you going to incorporate?

[cousinmuscles]

Tren has never affected my blood counts to any extent at any dose, I only seem to get the androgenic boost from it. I thus wonder if it targets muscle receptors at all.

I'll be upping my Test this fall but I'll switch to a longer ester, was thinking Decanoate (homebrew). I don't feel stable on enanthate not even with ED pins.

Blood counts = hematocrit RBC etc? I recall that other Italian guy saying the same thing with tren, slacker78 was his username I believe.

Sounds very strange to not feel well with ED pins. Well now you have pretty much all esters at your disposal lol

[Windex]

I've run Tren as low as 150mg and as high as 700mg. I prefer the lower doses. Once I get back to my pre injury condition in about 6 months or so going to drop my TRT down to 100mg and run 200 or 300mg of Tren. Gonna try 4 or 5 months on Tren..

[guitarzan]

Worked legs at gym this morning. I do something where I use the assisted dip/pull up machine, that has a padded platform that you put your knees on and it supports your body weight, makes you weigh less the more weight you add. I stand on the machine and put one foot on the pad and press it down, really targets the glutes. Also did Squats, Extensions and Curls. Worked in yard all day and then swam in the pool. Got some sun burn, did a shit ton of sweating. Still kicking ass on diet

[hammerheart]

Unusual. You would think with ED pins @ a low dose you would get a cumulative effect that would give you minimal troughs and peaks.
I tried some UGL test d a while back during a small blast and didn't really feel much difference compared to test cyp. On the other hand, I only ran 10ml @ 1ml/week and didn't pull any labs for feedback. Some guys pin it once/week and report decent total and free T values on their trough day. I would've thought that it would eventually require an adjustment to a lower dosage, but they stay @ the same dosage.
What kind of pinning schedule are you going to incorporate?

I'm not sure probably EOD to 2x weekly to give myself a break from ED pin, if it works well I might subsequently switch to undecanoate weekly pins, goal is to easy things with E2 management.

Blood counts = hematocrit RBC etc? I recall that other Italian guy saying the same thing with tren, slacker78 was his username I believe.

Sounds very strange to not feel well with ED pins. Well now you have pretty much all esters at your disposal lol

I meant I don't get any boost in hematocrit and hemoglobin from Tren, Test does though.

I've run Tren as low as 150mg and as high as 700mg. I prefer the lower doses. Once I get back to my pre injury condition in about 6 months or so going to drop my TRT down to 100mg and run 200 or 300mg of Tren. Gonna try 4 or 5 months on Tren..

I've been using 20-25mg tren-E ED for over a year by now. I'd fancy a little more especially for libido and mood but it makes my chest look puffy. Secret with sides management with Tren is staying low dose with Test and/or strict E2 control, the synergy with E2 and the progesterone agonism from Tren is what elicits the worst sides.

[cousinmuscles]

Tonights training

bb bench 120 x 6, 5
incline bb bench 100 x 9,6
ezbar skullcrushers 30 + band x 10,10 fuck these hurt my wrist, can't get the move right, I will go back to JM press and alternate with marcus db tri extension
dips +25 x 6,4

So just like last session a small performance drop. I wen't too hard with the cut and depleted carbs. Too low calories too. I don't think I have burned away any muscle but the lack of carbs makes me feel shit inbetween sets and brought my strength down a rep or two lol. Feels fucking horrible when you do a cycle that doesn't yield much. New diet plan, the only thing I have changed is added 2 tbsp peanut butter on the last meal before bed, and every fourth day will be carb up day with 300g bulgur or rice. On average this turns out to be 2700 calories per day. This should help not burn muscle and hopefully carbing up will bring some strength back.

Have pondered about the cycle and I'll keep test and NPP at the same ratio and go to 1g total. 525mg of each, 75mg of each daily, 1.5ml to shoot daily. This should make for a kick ass cycle.

[guitarzan]

Definitely got some sun burn, hard to tell with the lighting. Notice the red streaks on my head...lol

[hammerheart]

Been having a damn pressure headache since Sat, ibu doesn't help much with it.

[hollowedzeus]

I don't have much to add until september. I'm in holiday mode. Flying out to Lanzarote this week for 10 days. Not going bananas but I'm drinking and eating. You've all got a month head start on me

Got my nebido in me. Feeling pumped. Going to pin some test e or sust before I fly out. Why risk having a normal man's test levels when you can be superman

[guitarzan]

I don't have much to add until september. I'm in holiday mode. Flying out to Lanzarote this week for 10 days. Not going bananas but I'm drinking and eating. You've all got a month head start on me

Got my nebido in me. Feeling pumped. Going to pin some test e or sust before I fly out. Why risk having a normal man's test levels when you can be superman

Take advantage of that eating, find a weight room!

[Charlie67]

Definitely got some sun burn, hard to tell with the lighting. Notice the red streaks on my head...lol

You gotta cover up man, be careful with that sun [emoji41]

Been having a damn pressure headache since Sat, ibu doesn't help much with it.

Hope you're feeling being today Hammer, stay happy brother.

I don't have much to add until september. I'm in holiday mode. Flying out to Lanzarote this week for 10 days. Not going bananas but I'm drinking and eating. You've all got a month head start on me

Got my nebido in me. Feeling pumped. Going to pin some test e or sust before I fly out. Why risk having a normal man's test levels when you can be superman

I had to Google Lanzarote, it looks beautiful, totally jealous of your trip, Have a great time superman [emoji6]



Happy Monday all, work hard this week and stay positive.

Best,
C-

[hammerheart]

Just too much hot weather, irritable, and sleepless for the day. Should be in for back later, focusing on lats, skipping deads still feeling hams sore right below buttocks, not doms, just too much stretch I guess.

[hammerheart]

Lol ok fell asleep and was too late when I awoke. That annoyed me a bit. What is a man supposed to do on a night he isn't training? The internet is not working alright either, it's like 56K from the 90s.

[Capebuffalo]

Lol ok fell asleep and was too late when I awoke. That annoyed me a bit. What is a man supposed to do on a night he isn't training? The internet is not working alright either, it's like 56K from the 90s.

Take a woman out on a date. Have wine eat dinner hold hands.

[Obs]

Take a woman out on a date. Have wine eat dinner hold hands.

Flick her bean. Get it nice n moist. Put her front butt in yer mouth while she slobbers on yer lollipop.

[Capebuffalo]

Flick her bean. Get it nice n moist. Put her front butt in yer mouth while she slobbers on yer lollipop.

And women say romance is dead.

[KittyO1]

.............[emoji848] 🤣

[KittyO1]

Back day! Went to a different gym today! Haven’t been there in a while and I like me some of their equipment!

Cardio intervals 15 mins

Wide pull-ups 3 sets of 8

Supported Tbar rows 4 sets 80x8
Wide grip pulldowns 4 sets 120x8

HS iso lat high row 4 sets 80x10 each arm

Nautilus plate loaded row 4 sets 105x8(Weight per side)

Double cable pulldowns 4 sets 35x12
Straight arm pulldowns 4 sets 42.5x12

Hanging leg raises 4 sets of 12
Cable crunches 4 sets 67.5x12