3 weeks in, nothing really changed yet.

[waltr64]

I assume you are using Test only? Test E or Test C? I find a kick start of Tbol can be helpful but going in to week 4 you have passed that. You are at the point you may want to look at adding Proviron to help the test work better especially if you have a history of depression. Did you get you testosterone levels tested before you started? If you start to see a little more belly fat you may want to add a stronger AI to the mix (my doc say's 50% of men will need it). Avoid anything with soy, eat more meat and keep your protein high to put the test to work for you. By the 3rd or 4th week you should be feeling stronger if your stuff is dosed right and good quality. Also, how old are you?

[Test Monsterone]

I assume you are using Test only? Test E or Test C? I find a kick start of Tbol can be helpful but going in to week 4 you have passed that. You are at the point you may want to look at adding Proviron to help the test work better especially if you have a history of depression. Did you get you testosterone levels tested before you started? If you start to see a little more belly fat you may want to add a stronger AI to the mix (my doc say's 50% of men will need it). Avoid anything with soy, eat more meat and keep your protein high to put the test to work for you. By the 3rd or 4th week you should be feeling stronger if your stuff is dosed right and good quality. Also, how old are you?

All I have available to me right now is Test Cypionate and Sustanon. I am using both, so 200 mg sus and 200 cyp. Pinning twice a week. About 1.5 weeks into this I started taking .25mg Arimidex the days after pinning. I take 250iu HCG the days before pinning, so 500 a week.

I’m 32 years old and my total levels were 470 my/dL and free test of 11 (8.5-25). I plan on going straight into trt after this, hence why I grabbed sustanon and cyp. For some reason it’s easier for me to find bottles of pharma Sustanon than cyp. All my online sources only have pharma cyp/en in ampules, which suck. They have plenty ugl bottles of everything though, but I don’t trust ugl. Thanks for the tips man!

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Week 4 and 5 are where you generally start to notice the long Esther testosterone. You’re almost there

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Also how often are you pinning and what doses? You can pin the cyp. every 3.5 days but the Sustanon should be every other day. Maybe your protocol is off?