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    you need to list out your weekly dosages, injection protocol and time frame .. just listing a few different steroids without telling us how you plan on taking them is not a steroid cycle .

    however after you have taken the time to do that , its highly unlikely anyone here is going to advise you to take all 3 of those compounds for a first cycle. only a dealer would

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    you need to list out your weekly dosages, injection protocol and time frame .. just listing a few different steroids without telling us how you plan on taking them is not a steroid cycle .

    however after you have taken the time to do that , its highly unlikely anyone here is going to advise you to take all 3 of those compounds for a first cycle. only a dealer would
    I'm going to run it for 12weeks as follow

    Sustanon 400mg per week for 12 weeks
    Deca 200mg per week for 10 weeks
    Dbol 30mg everyday for 6 weeks

    Then pct after 2 weeks of last injection

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelife93 View Post
    I'm going to run it for 12weeks as follow

    Sustanon 400mg per week for 12 weeks
    Deca 200mg per week for 10 weeks
    Dbol 30mg everyday for 6 weeks

    Then pct after 2 weeks of last injection
    Drop Deca. It shuts your down on the first injection and could seriously damage/hinder your natural testosterone levels. It's an amazing one but read up on what deca does to natural testosterone levels after a cycle and PCT. I'm serious. Dbol is great but suggesting a test only cycle isn't also because it's your first go around. It's to gauge how you respond to sides and combating them.

    You should be pulling blood work before, during and after monitoring your hormone levels, liver toxicity, thickness of blood. It's a great way to see if you need to up or lower your aromatose inhibitors or switch them.

    Speaking of wich. I don't see any aromatose inhibitors. Pick one to run during cycle to limit the amount of estrogen your body will produce on cycle. HCG is recommended. Read on low dosing HCG during cycle then ramping up HCG up too PCT date.


    Cycling is like going to college. Your actual cycle is your semester where you study, have fun and do homework...... PCT is your final exam date and no matter how much hard work you put into your cycle. If you fail you exam (pct). It was all for nothing.
    Last edited by CAADsprint; 10-06-2018 at 09:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelife93 View Post
    I'm going to run it for 12weeks as follow

    Sustanon 400mg per week for 12 weeks
    Deca 200mg per week for 10 weeks
    Dbol 30mg everyday for 6 weeks

    Then pct after 2 weeks of last injection
    10 weeks isn't really long enough for Deca, and it will shut your HPTA down hard, you'll feel the recovery from that for awhile. What's your PCT plan? What about running HCG during cycle?
    Another issue with running Deca, is because it's a 19 nor steroid it can cause progesterone issues, and because this is your first cycle, it will be hard for you to tell which compound is causing what.

    If you only run test, and you have estrogen issues, you will know what's causing it because it can only be the test.

    Now if you get through a whole test cycle and find you're not particularly prone to estrogen issues, then try it with the dianabol the next time. They aromatize pretty hard, so chances are you will have some estrogen conversion, but you'll learn what to look for, and how to deal with it properly

    Then once you have that figured out if, on the next cycle, you took test and deca, and had side effects you didn't have on the test alone, you would know that most likely it was the deca causing it.

    You will see plenty of results from test alone, Hell run the dbol if you really want, but I really wouldn't bother with the deca. Not for 10 weeks, and not for the recovery time, later down the road when you want to run a 16-20 week cycle, and you're pretty well committed to the idea of TRT for the rest of your life... sure.

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    I would also like to point out that Testosterone only cycles, work well and make you feel amazing with nothing else added in. Everyone's always so quick to try and juggle multiple compounds, and they have their place no doubt.

    But even many cycles in, A good high dose test only cycle will pack on size, strength, and a feeling of well being that a lot of other compounds replace with a toxic feeling. Lethargic, unable to sleep, decreased appetite, etc. etc.

    Testosterone always makes me feel goooood

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    If you're set on at the least using dbol then definitely keep either arimadex or aromosin within your cycle, it wouldn't hurt to keep some Letro or Raloxifene on hand either. If for any reason you you develop gyno you'll be happy you did. Keeping extra nolvadex might be handy as well since it can combat gyno and you'll end up using any extra on later cycles in life.

    I second the commitment into trt. Make sure your sure if your really ready.

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    Btw I have exceeded my dosage needs in the past. I laid in a cold shower gagging to the point of blacking out every time I got hot/winded.

    Gh helped me figure out that my tren and anadrol combo was just too much. After I lowered the dosage of the adrol I was g2g. It seriously sucked bad. I cost myself a few weeks of training and wasted hundreds in gear for no reason other than I thought it would help me grow.

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    Thank you guys for your helpful opinions
    Quick question
    Can I use the sustanon alone then?
    And save the Deca and Dbol for my second cycle? Because I already bought the gear..
    In terms of pct, I only got nolvadex right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelife93 View Post
    Thank you guys for your helpful opinions
    Quick question
    Can I use the sustanon alone then?
    And save the Deca and Dbol for my second cycle? Because I already bought the gear..
    In terms of pct, I only got nolvadex right now
    Yes.
    Rather than run deca on the second cycle I would run a 500-750 test cycle depending on how well you handle the 500 and add in the dbol for second cycle. Third start into nandrolone (deca). I would recommend npp though. Same results faster with npp and it leaves your system faster.

    Good luck and I hope you have a great cycle. Most likely you will love it,

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