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    Got back my results. Took the test an hour before my injection on Friday (Mon night / Friday morning routine). The gear is not fake. I had a feeling I was gonna fall somewhere between 1600-2000.

    To summarize: my liver enzymes are a little high, probably due to getting drunk on Sat night. Testosterone (Free + Total LC/MS) is 1919.3 (264 - 916). Free testosterone is 43.9 (8.7 - 25.1). Estradiol is 49 (8 - 35). SHGB is good at 21 (16.5 - 55.0). Interestingly my blood sugar is down to 86 from 98-99 for my last two blood tests (all fasted 12 hours).

    Question now becomes, is the elevated estrogen really a problem? I'm not seeing any noticeable water retention, and my face easily gets puffy with just a poor diet normally. No itchy nipples, or anything out of the ordinary. Libido is normal, as before. Not feeling any "I'd screw anything" feelings. Work dress/business casual shirts are feeling tighter in the back and chest. I put on about 7-8 lbs so far.

    I bumped up to 500 mg the day of the test, from 450.

    The test was taken at the end of week 8. Currently on week 9. Remember I tapered up from 150 the first week to 500 by the last week . I went 150/ 300 / 400 / 450/ 500. Pretty much hit a number each week except for 400mg, when I did that for 3 weeks. I'm guessing my test results were based only 400 mg/week considering the ramp up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
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    Test 1919
    Estradiol is 49
    Question now becomes, is the elevated estrogen really a problem? I'm not seeing any noticeable water retention, and my face easily gets puffy with just a poor diet normally. No itchy nipples, or anything out of the ordinary. Libido is normal,
    What elevated estrogen ? Your estradiol is 49 while your test is 1919. I actually think your E is a little bit low. As your test levels go above range your E levels should follow...

    the "normal range" of estrogen on a blood test is for 'NATURALS' or for guys on TRT trying to stay within normal range. not for enhanced AAS users.

    As your test gets to supra-physiological levels (above natural limits, ie, above normal) your E gets above natural/normal as well. especially if you want to grow.

    good to hear your gear is not fake , but yeah your estrogen is not high at all or something you should worry about.. in fact if your taking an AI to keep E down, and your having trouble growing (like you said you were) then you may want to dump your AI and let your blood levels of Estrogen come up higher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Got back my results. Took the test an hour before my injection on Friday (Mon night / Friday morning routine). The gear is not fake. I had a feeling I was gonna fall somewhere between 1600-2000.

    To summarize: my liver enzymes are a little high, probably due to getting drunk on Sat night. Testosterone (Free + Total LC/MS) is 1919.3 (264 - 916). Free testosterone is 43.9 (8.7 - 25.1). Estradiol is 49 (8 - 35). SHGB is good at 21 (16.5 - 55.0). Interestingly my blood sugar is down to 86 from 98-99 for my last two blood tests (all fasted 12 hours).

    Question now becomes, is the elevated estrogen really a problem? I'm not seeing any noticeable water retention, and my face easily gets puffy with just a poor diet normally. No itchy nipples, or anything out of the ordinary. Libido is normal, as before. Not feeling any "I'd screw anything" feelings. Work dress/business casual shirts are feeling tighter in the back and chest. I put on about 7-8 lbs so far.

    I bumped up to 500 mg the day of the test, from 450.

    The test was taken at the end of week 8. Currently on week 9. Remember I tapered up from 150 the first week to 500 by the last week . I went 150/ 300 / 400 / 450/ 500. Pretty much hit a number each week except for 400mg, when I did that for 3 weeks. I'm guessing my test results were based only 400 mg/week considering the ramp up.

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    Gear seems underdosed to me from your free Test score at 450mg per week. I get higher from TRT.

    Total test score is not really relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Gear seems underdosed to me from your free Test score at 450mg per week. I get higher from TRT.

    Total test score is not really relevant.
    his total test is 2x normal, and his free test is nearly 2x normal (ie, 44 with a range of 8-25). seems about right for 450mg of test a week to me, especially if he's not taking Proviron or something with it to drive down SHBG and drive up free test.
    its not "spectacular" but definitely acceptable imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    his total test is 2x normal, and his free test is nearly 2x normal (ie, 44 with a range of 8-25). seems about right for 450mg of test a week to me, especially if he's not taking Proviron or something with it to drive down SHBG and drive up free test.
    its not "spectacular" but definitely acceptable imo
    I also forgot to mention I'm taking 500 iu of HCG a week. So that should also bring my test levels up some. Maybe Windex is a little right. It has me questioning the product since it was on sale months ago, and still is. It's selling for less than UGL and it's Pharma. Maybe a bad batch and they just want to get rid of it? $50/10ml Sustanon/Cypionate at 250mg/ml - and then another 30% off coupon. So I'm only paying ~ $35 per bottle. This source started carrying SIS labs and I checked with SIS and they confirmed the source is legit. Can anyone recommend them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    What elevated estrogen ? Your estradiol is 49 while your test is 1919. I actually think your E is a little bit low. As your test levels go above range your E levels should follow...

    the "normal range" of estrogen on a blood test is for 'NATURALS' or for guys on TRT trying to stay within normal range. not for enhanced AAS users.

    As your test gets to supra-physiological levels (above natural limits, ie, above normal) your E gets above natural/normal as well. especially if you want to grow.

    good to hear your gear is not fake , but yeah your estrogen is not high at all or something you should worry about.. in fact if your taking an AI to keep E down, and your having trouble growing (like you said you were) then you may want to dump your AI and let your blood levels of Estrogen come up higher

    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm taking 0.5 mg a week split in two doses.





    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Gear seems underdosed to me from your free Test score at 450mg per week. I get higher from TRT.

    Total test score is not really relevant.

    If you get higher from TRT, that's not TRT

    Weren't you saying how a big percentage of the Sustanon is wasted as it's short ester? And being that I was essentially 3.5 days away from my next shot, I would be at a trough anyways. Not the highest levels, I admit, but much better than where I was with a natty 470 ng/dl.

    I have to re-order soon so now I'm wondering if I should stick to the Alpha Pharma or get something else, likely UGL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm taking 0.5 mg a week split in two doses.








    If you get higher from TRT, that's not TRT

    Weren't you saying how a big percentage of the Sustanon is wasted as it's short ester? And being that I was essentially 3.5 days away from my next shot, I would be at a trough anyways. Not the highest levels, I admit, but much better than where I was with a natty 470 ng/dl.

    I have to re-order soon so now I'm wondering if I should stick to the Alpha Pharma or get something else, likely UGL?
    I would never order international there is no benefit only risk. As bias as I am to pharmagrade I would still buy UGL domestically over international pharma even if it was coming right from the pharmacy.

    Pharma Domestic > UGL Domestic > Homebrew > International.

    I also don't go above my TRT even when cycling.

    Yes you are wasting 36% of Sustanon250 by pinning twice per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I would never order international there is no benefit only risk. As bias as I am to pharmagrade I would still buy UGL domestically over international pharma even if it was coming right from the pharmacy.

    Pharma Domestic > UGL Domestic > Homebrew > International.

    I also don't go above my TRT even when cycling.

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    Almost all of the domestic stuff I’ve seen looks shady to me. The bottles look like a 3rd grader made them. The prices are 2x Pharma overseas. If you have some legit domestic sources feel free to PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Almost all of the domestic stuff I’ve seen looks shady to me. The bottles look like a 3rd grader made them. The prices are 2x Pharma overseas. If you have some legit domestic sources feel free to PM me.
    I'm not American. There are tons of good American UGL's though - sounds like you just need to do more research. Also the bloodwork I attached is why I think your gear is underdosed.
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