Almost 6 weeks and still nothing...

[Windex]

Almost all of the domestic stuff I’ve seen looks shady to me. The bottles look like a 3rd grader made them. The prices are 2x Pharma overseas. If you have some legit domestic sources feel free to PM me.

I'm not American. There are tons of good American UGL's though - sounds like you just need to do more research. Also the bloodwork I attached is why I think your gear is underdosed.

[Arcânn]

My problem with domestic (in USA) is that there seems to be a VERY HIGH likelihood of your gear being fake or underdosed. I've never ordered domestic, but everyone I know who ever has gone domestic, even if they're getting it from a "trusted source" on the street, has gotten fake/underdosed gear a bare minimum of about 25% of the time. And those are the lucky ones. Maybe I just live in the wrong area or something, but I have yet to meet someone who doesn't frequently get bad gear domestically.

I only know like 2 people who get gear overseas (not including me, I haven't used mine yet), and they're well-versed in this game, and I don't think I've EVER seen them complain about bad gear. And they both appear to have much better results than any of the other juicers I know.

But then again I've heard people on this and another forum who have never had a bad experience with domestic gear, or so it seems, so you never know.

[GearHeaded]

My problem with domestic (in USA) is that there seems to be a VERY HIGH likelihood of your gear being fake or underdosed. I've never ordered domestic, but everyone I know who ever has gone domestic, even if they're getting it from a "trusted source" on the street, has gotten fake/underdosed gear a bare minimum of about 25% of the time. And those are the lucky ones. Maybe I just live in the wrong area or something, but I have yet to meet someone who doesn't frequently get bad gear domestically.

I only know like 2 people who get gear overseas (not including me, I haven't used mine yet), and they're well-versed in this game, and I don't think I've EVER seen them complain about bad gear. And they both appear to have much better results than any of the other juicers I know.

But then again I've heard people on this and another forum who have never had a bad experience with domestic gear, or so it seems, so you never know.

if you know where to go, and the domestic gear your getting is coming from an actual compounding pharmacy made in the US, its not going to be faked or under dosed . NOW domestic UGL is a whole different story. as for domestic pharma gear you just gotta know where to go to get it.

[Test Monsterone]

Ugh just give me the source already!!

No amount of research on my part is going to get me any closer to finding it.

The only thing I can do is look online - and there are a ton of sites that look suspect at best. I am inclined to stick to my current source, just because I know they are legit - even though this particular brand they have may be underdosed. Their HCG and Cialis definitely seems good and it’s all pharma. My balls have not shrunk at all.

[Couchlockd]

Ugh just give me the source already!!

No amount of research on my part is going to get me any closer to finding it.

The only thing I can do is look online - and there are a ton of sites that look suspect at best. I am inclined to stick to my current source, just because I know they are legit - even though this particular brand they have may be underdosed. Their HCG and Cialis definitely seems good and it’s all pharma. My balls have not shrunk at all.

The doctor.

Or you could "borrow" if from the pharmacy, but I don't think the prosecutor will see it as borrowing..

[< <Samson> >]

^ who has this?! And what do u do


Domestic UGL shit has been just fine - better than I would expect so far

[Windex]

Ugh just give me the source already!!

No amount of research on my part is going to get me any closer to finding it.

The only thing I can do is look online - and there are a ton of sites that look suspect at best. I am inclined to stick to my current source, just because I know they are legit - even though this particular brand they have may be underdosed. Their HCG and Cialis definitely seems good and it’s all pharma. My balls have not shrunk at all.

I have never heard of fake HCG or even UGL HCG - would probably cost more to fake than to buy an resell HG, same as cialist, so not really a good indication of how strong a brand is from those two items.

[DozerSoldier]

Gear works different for everyone.
2 of my bros say I am a limited responder, not really a non responder.
They can take 500mg/wk if the Test E and 400mg/wk Deca that I brew, 6mg Aromasin ED.
5mg Cialis ED
AND GROW VERY EASILY.
We all do our meal planning and prep in advance.
We train together.
I have to take 1g of test and 900mg Deca to see similar results.
I can take 1mg Prami and just get sleepy, they take 0.25mg and feel like they want to die.
I am hyper responsive to Anadrol however.

I can take high doses with minimal side effects (except for anadrol).
I was pinning 70mg Tren Ace ED and had no major side effects, they were pinning 50mg ED talking about Trensomnia, mind games and anger, sweating like crazy.

Everyone is different.

[T-boner]

I’ve been getting Balkan Test E for $30 per bottle if I buy 10 bottles or more. Is that too low? Does that mean I may be buying fake stuff? Or is alpha pharma generally more expensive than Balkan?

[Couchlockd]

Gear works different for everyone.
2 of my bros say I am a limited responder, not really a non responder.
They can take 500mg/wk if the Test E and 400mg/wk Deca that I brew, 6mg Aromasin ED.
5mg Cialis ED
AND GROW VERY EASILY.
We all do our meal planning and prep in advance.
We train together.
I have to take 1g of test and 900mg Deca to see similar results.
I can take 1mg Prami and just get sleepy, they take 0.25mg and feel like they want to die.
I am hyper responsive to Anadrol however.

I can take high doses with minimal side effects (except for anadrol).
I was pinning 70mg Tren Ace ED and had no major side effects, they were pinning 50mg ED talking about Trensomnia, mind games and anger, sweating like crazy.

Everyone is different.

Also look at shbg and estrogen on the blood work

If seen bloods were 60% of test is converted to e2 and sone bound by shbg giving a very lackluster free test value.