Urgent gyno

[redz]

Sounds like elevated prolactin but could also be elevated estrogen. Cabaser or bromo will fix the prolactin and arimidex or aromasin will help with the estrogen. The problem with running nolvadex is it will simply block the estrogen from the estrogen receptor but do nothing to lower it. Meaning the increased estrogen can keep feeding the prolactin/progesterone issue. I would advise a full blood panel.

[GearHeaded]

Sounds like elevated prolactin but could also be elevated estrogen. Cabaser or bromo will fix the prolactin and arimidex or aromasin will help with the estrogen. The problem with running nolvadex is it will simply block the estrogen from the estrogen receptor but do nothing to lower it. Meaning the increased estrogen can keep feeding the prolactin/progesterone issue. I would advise a full blood panel.

not to nit pick here. but this is really only true while ON cycle (with exogenous test coming in). not off cycle after pct. remember, AI's do nothing to lower existing estrogen levels either (they only keep Test from converting to estrogen). Any elevated blood levels of estrogen have to come down on their own. Thus Nolvadex would be the absolute best choice here because its going to at least blunt the estrogen receptor in the breast tissue.
he is post cycle. he does not have androgens coming in, and he likely does not have naturally occuring androgen production either. an AI only blocks the Aromatase enzyme from converting test into estrogen.. if there is not any test coming in at this time anyways, an AI is irrelevant.


it sounds like the OP did not run a proper pct and did not end his cycle with the proper protocols. its very common for guys who do this to end up in whats called an "estrogen dominant'' hormone balance post cycle (no androgens coming in). This is going to cause estrogen side effects (no androgens coming in to offset them) and its going to cause them to stay shut down and not produce natural test and thus crashed libido as well (as elevated estrogen levels are the number one factor for HPTA shut down).

NOT a good situation to be in at all.. the time for running an AI has already past. he should of done that at the tail end of his cycle and going into pct. now he has to wait for the estrogen levels to come down on their own (yet he can at least take Nolva to block some estrogen receptor sites)


having said all that -- none of the above should have taken place had he actually been running real Epistane like he thought he was running

[Lbcl91]

not to nit pick here. but this is really only true while ON cycle (with exogenous test coming in). not off cycle after pct. remember, AI's do nothing to lower existing estrogen levels either (they only keep Test from converting to estrogen). Any elevated blood levels of estrogen have to come down on their own. Thus Nolvadex would be the absolute best choice here because its going to at least blunt the estrogen receptor in the breast tissue.
he is post cycle. he does not have androgens coming in, and he likely does not have naturally occuring androgen production either. an AI only blocks the Aromatase enzyme from converting test into estrogen.. if there is not any test coming in at this time anyways, an AI is irrelevant.


it sounds like the OP did not run a proper pct and did not end his cycle with the proper protocols. its very common for guys who do this to end up in whats called an "estrogen dominant'' hormone balance post cycle (no androgens coming in). This is going to cause estrogen side effects (no androgens coming in to offset them) and its going to cause them to stay shut down and not produce natural test and thus crashed libido as well (as elevated estrogen levels are the number one factor for HPTA shut down).

NOT a good situation to be in at all.. the time for running an AI has already past. he should of done that at the tail end of his cycle and going into pct. now he has to wait for the estrogen levels to come down on their own (yet he can at least take Nolva to block some estrogen receptor sites)


having said all that -- none of the above should have taken place had he actually been running real Epistane like he thought he was running

It was epi 2A3A by vital labs, the reason I chose it was due to the lack of side effects but for some reason they seem to be quite bad, I have bought some Nolva but by the sounds of it, it won’t actually do much? Will my hormone levels just level out on their own eventually?