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    Go to Wal-Mart and buy a 3 dollar bottle of caffeine and 17 dollars for bronkaid, way more effective than HGH for fat loss. Arginine too

    If you're hellbent on gh use GHRP

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    what are you talking about??
    this is not true, GH is great for fatloss and there in my opinion GH is the most fat burning agent there is. i know t3 is great yes, but i have done this with t3 with t3 and GH with GH alone, and GH is winner (ofcourse you can add t3 for extra fatburning effects).

    and another thing that GH do and no other thing can do, is local fat reduction. which is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOL!D5NAK3 View Post
    what are you talking about??
    this is not true, GH is great for fatloss and there in my opinion GH is the most fat burning agent there is. i know t3 is great yes, but i have done this with t3 with t3 and GH with GH alone, and GH is winner (ofcourse you can add t3 for extra fatburning effects).

    and another thing that GH do and no other thing can do, is local fat reduction. which is awesome.
    The injectable superdrol I used had extraordinary local fat loss effects. Shit was better than anything ive ever used

    But IMO you are being inefficient if you are trying to lose fat withour EC stack. It is one of the rare things that always works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    The injectable superdrol I used had extraordinary local fat loss effects. Shit was better than anything ive ever used

    But IMO you are being inefficient if you are trying to lose fat withour EC stack. It is one of the rare things that always works.
    Can you go into more detail please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Can you go into more detail please?
    I had a theory people were using FAR more superdrol than needed and theorized it could be dosed akin to methyltren , e.g 10-500mcg doses and be effective.

    I was god damn right. Double digit mcg amounts of superdrol injected completely unbelievably peeled fat off of me more than any aas ever did, it was pretty mindblowing. This method also significantly reduces toxicity to negligible amounts. DNP may boost actual metabolic rate more but for me the spot injected sdrol is the best tool for fat loss, it's absolutely nuts. It's toxic as fuck when taken orally in higher doses and doesnt give better results ime.

    Funny people will inject 100mg of tren a day for very inferior results to 1/1000th the amount of sdrol. The people who use this drug and don't get results either take way too much, have fake shit or are doing something very very wrong because real superdrol in my experience is the best compound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    I had a theory people were using FAR more superdrol than needed and theorized it could be dosed akin to methyltren , e.g 10-500mcg doses and be effective.

    I was god damn right. Double digit mcg amounts of superdrol injected completely unbelievably peeled fat off of me more than any aas ever did, it was pretty mindblowing. This method also significantly reduces toxicity to negligible amounts. DNP may boost actual metabolic rate more but for me the spot injected sdrol is the best tool for fat loss, it's absolutely nuts. It's toxic as fuck when taken orally in higher doses and doesnt give better results ime.

    Funny people will inject 100mg of tren a day for very inferior results to 1/1000th the amount of sdrol. The people who use this drug and don't get results either take way too much, have fake shit or are doing something very very wrong because real superdrol in my experience is the best compound.
    Fiddle, you gotta be a hyper metabolizer or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Fiddle, you gotta be a hyper metabolizer or something.
    I've talked to multiple pros and other relevant people who agree with that sentiment entirely, mainly when injected. It has some unique properties that no other steroid possesses, these properties are really only seen with injection. Development of the compound was not even meant to be an AAS but an anti tumor drug, definitely some very strong cell division-type effects (compared to other aas) for certain.

    Essentially, adding in even a tiny dose of 100mcg injected SD a day will significantly improve a cycle more than anything else can really. It was a huge error to ever suggest the doses of 5-30mg orally and I feel it would be FAR more popular if it was dosed at those much smaller injected doses. With all the praise I give it, it absolutely will fuck you up at those stupid doses, very very severely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    I had a theory people were using FAR more superdrol than needed and theorized it could be dosed akin to methyltren , e.g 10-500mcg doses and be effective.

    I was god damn right. Double digit mcg amounts of superdrol injected completely unbelievably peeled fat off of me more than any aas ever did, it was pretty mindblowing. This method also significantly reduces toxicity to negligible amounts. DNP may boost actual metabolic rate more but for me the spot injected sdrol is the best tool for fat loss, it's absolutely nuts. It's toxic as fuck when taken orally in higher doses and doesnt give better results ime.

    Funny people will inject 100mg of tren a day for very inferior results to 1/1000th the amount of sdrol. The people who use this drug and don't get results either take way too much, have fake shit or are doing something very very wrong because real superdrol in my experience is the best compound.
    Thanks. So even 100mgs of superdrol works wonders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Thanks. So even 100mgs of superdrol works wonders?
    Jesus I might have just saved someone's liver.

    100 MICROGRAMS. 1000 micrograms is a milligram lol. If you did 100 mg superdrol you would have a bad bad bad time.

    from what my group of people have seen it practically always works under every circumstance, the gains really don't even slow down. If enough calories are consumed the gains are not comparable to any other aas. It's results will be limited by the user's ability to eat tremendous amounts of food. a conclusion one could make from this is that whatever anabolic actions it is exerting are in a completely different realm compared to traditional aas and it probably is working via mechanisms the other compounds don't interact with at all, it's pretty clear that is the case when people on 5G+ cycles immediately start getting incredibly quick results adding in that .1mg sd dose. it would be very interesting to add maybe a 10mcg dose to a trt regimen and see what happens.

    something else that's very interesting is that it absolutely can absorb through the skin. you can apply it to say biceps and should notice a very significant difference when they are worked. personally I have done this in doses probably 10-30mcg and it works more than any amount of test I've been on ever did. more than any amount of any aas and I've used all outside of ment methyltren and dimethyltren.

    I did not even want to make this info public tbh but too late now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Go to Wal-Mart and buy a 3 dollar bottle of caffeine and 17 dollars for bronkaid, way more effective than HGH for fat loss. Arginine too

    If you're hellbent on gh use GHRP
    You have obviously never used real HGH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    You have obviously never used real HGH.
    Ive not only used real gh I've used basically every gh releasing thing ever. For an avg person ephedrine will likely outdo every other fat burner from the appetite suppression i think. Personally I find GH to have hypo effects v often which fucking sucks.

    IME T3 is far better than GH, T3 on its own stimulates GH production as well. GH worst bodybuilding drug per dollar for certain.
    Last edited by fiddlesticks; 03-03-2019 at 06:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Ive not only used real gh I've used basically every gh releasing thing ever. For an avg person ephedrine will likely outdo every other fat burner from the appetite suppression i think. Personally I find GH to have hypo effects v often which fucking sucks.

    IME T3 is far better than GH, T3 on its own stimulates GH production as well. GH worst bodybuilding drug per dollar for certain.
    I have to disagree. Personally I have never went hypo on HGH ( I have with IGF1 LR3) I don't like things like ephedrine due to the stimulant effect which gets me too wired and jittery. I use pharm grade HGH on a daily basis and I have never been leaner and tighter. With all the said I hade ice cream and cake last night and still woke up with abs this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    I have to disagree. Personally I have never went hypo on HGH ( I have with IGF1 LR3) I don't like things like ephedrine due to the stimulant effect which gets me too wired and jittery. I use pharm grade HGH on a daily basis and I have never been leaner and tighter. With all the said I hade ice cream and cake last night and still woke up with abs this morning.
    For the avg person their problem usually isn't metabolism but rather the mental aspect. Ephedrine or even better amphetamines work quite well in that area. Personally I didn't notice any mood effects from GH. T3 on the other hand for me has some mood enhancing aspect.

    Not saying an avg person should use ephedrine or amph for fat loss but man does it make it effortless. Makes me realize how futile and hard fat loss is without those dopamine/ other fun chemicals naturally being released in your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    For the avg person their problem usually isn't metabolism but rather the mental aspect. Ephedrine or even better amphetamines work quite well in that area. Personally I didn't notice any mood effects from GH. T3 on the other hand for me has some mood enhancing aspect.

    Not saying an avg person should use ephedrine or amph for fat loss but man does it make it effortless. Makes me realize how futile and hard fat loss is without those dopamine/ other fun chemicals naturally being released in your life.
    We shall see what gw501516 does for fat. I'll have it soon and log it.

    I'll be running 175mg test, 600 primo per week and 40mg var and 20mg get daily.

    20mg DIM. TUDCA and NAC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    We shall see what gw501516 does for fat. I'll have it soon and log it.

    I'll be running 175mg test, 600 primo per week and 40mg var and 20mg get daily.

    20mg DIM. TUDCA and NAC
    20Mg get ?

    I've heard it's supposed to increase your metabolism and v02max alot. Probably ridiculously synergistic with EC

    Maybe it can act like clen that doesn't make you want to jump off a bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    For the avg person their problem usually isn't metabolism but rather the mental aspect. Ephedrine or even better amphetamines work quite well in that area. Personally I didn't notice any mood effects from GH. T3 on the other hand for me has some mood enhancing aspect.

    Not saying an avg person should use ephedrine or amph for fat loss but man does it make it effortless. Makes me realize how futile and hard fat loss is without those dopamine/ other fun chemicals naturally being released in your life.
    Even when I used things like CLENBUTEROL, EPHEDRINE I always had stubborn fat in my abs and love handles. With HGH that problem has disappeared and I'm tighter and leaner than I ever have been. I use no stimulants at all. Myself speaking HGH has been a major game changer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    Even when I used things like CLENBUTEROL, EPHEDRINE I always had stubborn fat in my abs and love handles. With HGH that problem has disappeared and I'm tighter and leaner than I ever have been. I use no stimulants at all. Myself speaking HGH has been a major game changer.
    Have you used T3 before? For me T3 does everything GH does but better without the chance of hypo. Can be injected for spot fat loss really well too. T3 very underrated I say. Very good mental benefits for me at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Go to Wal-Mart and buy a 3 dollar bottle of caffeine and 17 dollars for bronkaid, way more effective than HGH for fat loss. Arginine too

    If you're hellbent on gh use GHRP
    Where can you still get Bronkaid? Wal-Mart (at least in the US) does not have it anymore.

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